From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Greg Banks <gnb@sgi.com>
Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List <nfs@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: ETIMEDOUT in nfsd?
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:21:59 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040805142159.GB25948@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040805022608.GR5581@sgi.com>
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 12:26:08PM +1000, Greg Banks wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:13:46AM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > So from the point of view
> > of the NFS server code, it does look like a retry, but the NFS client
> > isn't involved--the server rpc code did the retry on its own.
>
> Aha...I see now.
>
> > This is only right if upcalls are done before you've done anything
> > non-idempotent, which makes it hard to handle NFSv4 compounds
> > correctly.
>
> Ouch, this is not a good assumption, especially considering servers
> rebooting and cache timeouts.
I don't see the problem you're referring to. I don't believe that in
either case these internal replays add any problems that we don't
already have, but perhaps I'm missing something.
> > > Why not send EJUKEBOX to the client, and let it manage retry using a
> > > retry strategy designed for a slow server instead of the one designed
> > > for lossy networks?
> >
> > That might mean returning EJUKEBOX on a lot of common operations (e.g.
> > on the first rpc request from a new client), when the server usually
> > could have replied very quickly.
>
> Potentially. But, in your experience do idmapper upcalls proceed quickly?
It's a good question; it would be interesting to measure them sometime
with a variety of different configurations (local /etc/passwd, ldap,
etc.), but we haven't gotten around to that yet.
--Bruce Fields
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-05 14:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-03 8:15 ETIMEDOUT in nfsd? Greg Banks
2004-08-03 19:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-08-04 7:35 ` Greg Banks
2004-08-04 14:13 ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-08-05 2:26 ` Greg Banks
2004-08-05 14:21 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2004-08-06 0:50 ` Greg Banks
2004-08-06 18:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
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