From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list linux-mips); Fri, 06 Aug 2004 03:03:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from p508B5F12.dip.t-dialin.net ([IPv6:::ffff:80.139.95.18]:31504 "EHLO mail.linux-mips.net") by linux-mips.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 03:03:09 +0100 Received: from fluff.linux-mips.net (fluff.linux-mips.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.linux-mips.net (8.12.11/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i76235um028380; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 04:03:05 +0200 Received: (from ralf@localhost) by fluff.linux-mips.net (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i76235Dn028379; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 04:03:05 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 04:03:04 +0200 From: Ralf Baechle To: Kumba Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org Subject: Re: anybody tried NPTL? Message-ID: <20040806020304.GA27895@linux-mips.org> References: <20040804152936.D6269@mvista.com> <411188A8.9040607@gentoo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <411188A8.9040607@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"|/home/ecartis/ecartis -s linux-mips"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org X-archive-position: 5610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org Errors-to: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org X-original-sender: ralf@linux-mips.org Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-mips On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 09:08:56PM -0400, Kumba wrote: > >I am looking into porting NPTL to MIPS. Just curious if > >anybody has tried this before. > > > >I notice there was a discussion about the ABI extension > >for TLS (thread local storage) support. Before that support > >becomes a reality it seems one can still use NPTL with > >the help of additional system calls. > > > >A rough search of latest glibc source shows there is > >zero MIPS code for nptl. A couple of other arches > >are missing as well (such as ARM) > > > >Jun > > All I've heard about this is that some kernel changes are (still?) > needed, then just the glibc support along w/ TLS (Maybe compiler support?). > > I believe I heard reports that the glibc people were looking to > deprecate linuxthreads within a another release or two (but don't know > specifics or anything), so it sounds like NPTL should be something to > get working. Threading support means breaking the ABI compatibility. There are other issues that can best be solved by breakin the ABI which is why this is stretching out. Ralf