From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262905AbUHGOsV (ORCPT ); Sat, 7 Aug 2004 10:48:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262927AbUHGOsU (ORCPT ); Sat, 7 Aug 2004 10:48:20 -0400 Received: from imladris.demon.co.uk ([193.237.130.41]:60172 "EHLO phoenix.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262905AbUHGOsR (ORCPT ); Sat, 7 Aug 2004 10:48:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:48:08 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Alan Cox Cc: Jon Smirl , Keith Whitwell , Ian Romanick , Dave Airlie , "DRI developer's list" , lkml Subject: Re: DRM function pointer work.. Message-ID: <20040807154808.D18510@infradead.org> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Alan Cox , Jon Smirl , Keith Whitwell , Ian Romanick , Dave Airlie , DRI developer's list , lkml References: <20040806171641.14189.qmail@web14928.mail.yahoo.com> <1091885466.18408.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <1091885466.18408.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>; from alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk on Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 02:31:07PM +0100 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by phoenix.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 02:31:07PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > And thats one of the big reasons its such a mess and doesn't work out. > Nobody is testing or reviewing it until some huge "merge point" occurs > at which point you run the risk of people saying "Actually your design > sucks", or in the 2.6 case finding out too late so that there is a patch > kit to upgrade your 2.6 to the 2.4 console driver Sorry, but the reason for the fbdev mess is that James is completely unable to do proper project managment. The model works fine for every other kernel subsystem.