From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Patrick Mochel <mochel@digitalimplant.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, benh@kernel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:36:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200408101136.38387.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040810101308.GE9034@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
On Tuesday 10 August 2004 3:13 am, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > Well, "no DMA" needs to be part of definition, too, because some
> > > devices (USB) do DMA only if they have nothing to do.
I think that should read "even if they have ...", not "only if ...".
> > I don't understand; that doesn't sound healthy.
>
> It is not healthy. It is basicaly misdesigned piece of hardware called
> UHCI. It simply does DMA all the time :-(.
Unless it's suspended ... and I confess I've only had time to
make sure that OHCI and EHCI suspend properly using the
newish CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND patch. UHCI is different
from those other mainstream controllers, it doesn't split
out its periodic schedule processing.
Keep in mind that to properly quiesce a USB controller, you've
got to quiesce every driver for every device hooked up to
that USB bus. There's no escaping the bottom-up suspend
or top-down-resume processes, which makes me wonder
how Patrick's proposed patch can work for it...
- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-10 20:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-09 10:43 [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States Patrick Mochel
2004-08-09 11:38 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-09 16:02 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-09 21:29 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 5:03 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 9:43 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10 10:20 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 22:33 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10 13:58 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 22:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10 22:56 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 23:09 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10 23:36 ` suspend2 merge [was Re: [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States] Pavel Machek
2004-08-11 0:04 ` Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2004-08-11 5:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-11 9:13 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 10:13 ` [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 18:36 ` David Brownell [this message]
2004-08-10 20:36 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 22:42 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-09 22:15 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-08-10 0:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-10 9:00 ` Russell King
2004-08-10 10:08 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 0:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-10 4:55 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 6:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-10 10:07 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 14:28 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 17:56 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 22:41 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 23:10 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-10 23:14 ` [patch] Smaller goal first: fix confusion [was Re: [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States] Pavel Machek
2004-08-11 1:02 ` [RFC] Fix Device Power Management States Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-10 19:41 ` David Brownell
2004-08-10 22:44 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 10:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2004-08-10 14:36 ` Patrick Mochel
2004-08-10 19:18 ` David Brownell
2004-08-10 20:50 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-11 1:47 ` Todd Poynor
2004-08-12 22:03 ` Russell King
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