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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: clear_user_highpage()
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:55:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040811165547.4cbc98a4.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1092267062.2166.19.camel@gaston>

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:31:03 +1000
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:

> It would be nice, indeed, tho we have to be careful not to waste
> too much time in there looking for pages to clear, especially when
> there is none. Time spent not putting the CPU into power managed
> idle, at least on PPC's, means the CPU getting hotter, consuming
> more battery, etc... which is definitely a bad thing on laptops.

I totally agree.  This is why I believe it should be a per-arch
decision at cpu_idle() time whether to do the clears or not.

> I already took a significant hit with HZ=1000 btw, I'm considering
> lowering it back to 100 on ppc32 at least... We really want tickless
> scheduling for these beasts so we can select how deep to PM the CPU
> based on how much time we expect to stay idle.

I think dynamic-resolution timers are the way to go here.
Rusty was talking about something along theses lines at
the networking summit.

The reason Rusty had brought it up was due to a ipv6 problem,
there are some timers that need to get so far into the future
that with HZ=1000 it isn't representable in the 32-bit timer
offsets.  We have jiffies64 and could move the timer struct
over the a u64 for the offsets, but that seems like overkill.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-11 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-11 23:15 clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-11 23:31 ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-11 23:55   ` David S. Miller [this message]
2004-08-12  0:03     ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12  1:18       ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-12  2:11       ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12  9:23         ` clear_user_highpage() Martin Schwidefsky
2004-08-11 23:46 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-11 23:53   ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12  0:00     ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12  0:06       ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12  0:24         ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12  0:23       ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12  1:46         ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12  2:51           ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-16  1:58         ` clear_user_highpage() Paul Mackerras
2004-08-12  2:08       ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12  2:45         ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12  9:09           ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 19:50             ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 20:00               ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 20:30                 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 21:34               ` clear_user_highpage() Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-13  8:16                 ` clear_user_highpage() David Mosberger
2004-08-12  0:00   ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12  0:21     ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12  0:46   ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-12  1:01     ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12  2:18     ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12  2:43       ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12  4:19         ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12  4:46           ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-15  6:22             ` clear_user_highpage() Andrew Morton
2004-08-15  6:38               ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-12  2:57       ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12  3:20       ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-13 21:41       ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-16 13:00         ` clear_user_highpage() David Mosberger
2004-08-22 19:51           ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2005-09-17 19:01             ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2005-09-17 19:16               ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen

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