From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267386AbUHPDZ2 (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Aug 2004 23:25:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267387AbUHPDZ2 (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Aug 2004 23:25:28 -0400 Received: from mx1.elte.hu ([157.181.1.137]:43405 "EHLO mx1.elte.hu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267386AbUHPDZ0 (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Aug 2004 23:25:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 05:26:52 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Lee Revell Cc: Florian Schmidt , linux-kernel , Felipe Alfaro Solana Subject: Re: [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8.1-P0 Message-ID: <20040816032652.GB11598@elte.hu> References: <1092432929.3450.78.camel@mindpipe> <20040814072009.GA6535@elte.hu> <20040815115649.GA26259@elte.hu> <20040816022554.16c3c84a@mango.fruits.de> <1092622121.867.109.camel@krustophenia.net> <20040816023655.GA8746@elte.hu> <1092624221.867.118.camel@krustophenia.net> <20040816025051.GA9481@elte.hu> <20040816025846.GA10240@elte.hu> <1092626279.867.135.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1092626279.867.135.camel@krustophenia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-ELTE-SpamVersion: MailScanner 4.31.6-itk1 (ELTE 1.2) SpamAssassin 2.63 ClamAV 0.73 X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-4.9, required 5.9, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamScore: -4 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Lee Revell wrote: > On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 22:58, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > if it doesnt change the xruns then it shows that it's not the locking of > > make_pages_present() that interacts with jackd, but it's what it does > > that interacts with it (or with the audio driver). > > > > assuming the DMA-starvation theory isnt excluded via mlock-test2.c: > > Sorry, you lost me here. Does the behavior of mlock-test2 point to > the locking of make_pages_present interfering with jackd, or with the > audio driver? it's rather pointing in the direction of locking, away from DMA issues. Any DMA issue should not depend if we do the activity in 8 chunks or in one go. Locking on the other hand depends on the length of a single chunk, not on the length of the total activity. Ingo