From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266243AbUHPEAP (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 00:00:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265102AbUHPEAP (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 00:00:15 -0400 Received: from mx2.elte.hu ([157.181.151.9]:32414 "EHLO mx2.elte.hu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267407AbUHPEAL (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 00:00:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 06:01:42 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Lee Revell Cc: Florian Schmidt , linux-kernel , Felipe Alfaro Solana Subject: Re: [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8.1-P0 Message-ID: <20040816040142.GA13531@elte.hu> References: <20040815115649.GA26259@elte.hu> <20040816022554.16c3c84a@mango.fruits.de> <1092622121.867.109.camel@krustophenia.net> <20040816023655.GA8746@elte.hu> <1092624221.867.118.camel@krustophenia.net> <20040816032806.GA11750@elte.hu> <20040816033623.GA12157@elte.hu> <1092627691.867.150.camel@krustophenia.net> <20040816034618.GA13063@elte.hu> <1092628493.810.3.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1092628493.810.3.camel@krustophenia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-ELTE-SpamVersion: MailScanner 4.31.6-itk1 (ELTE 1.2) SpamAssassin 2.63 ClamAV 0.73 X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-4.9, required 5.9, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamScore: -4 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Lee Revell wrote: > I will try next with /dev/random disabled. Don't most/many new > machines have a hardware RNG that would eliminate the need for this > code? The C3 does have one IIRC, but do Intel CPUs have it too? Also, there's the question of trust - how random it truly is. Is it a partly pseudo-RNG masked via encryption? /dev/random i know is random, driven by random timings of real disks and real network packets. The CPU's HRNG is much more encapsulated and can only be blackbox-tested. Ingo