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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>
To: Mike Waychison <Michael.Waychison@Sun.COM>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	Tim Hockin <thockin@hockin.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>,
	Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: Using fs views to isolate untrusted processes: I need an assistant architect in the USA for Phase I of a DARPA funded linux kernel project
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:56:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040825175608.Y1973@build.pdx.osdl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <412D2BD2.2090408@sun.com>; from Michael.Waychison@Sun.COM on Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:16:18PM -0400

* Mike Waychison (Michael.Waychison@Sun.COM) wrote:
> This provides minimal protection if any: the user may remount any block
> devices on any given tree in his 'namespace' (in the sense of "that is
> what we call a mount-table in Linux").  *

Namespaces aren't currently expressive enough, and have caveats like
these, and can't express detailed access controls.

> If I understand what Hans is looking to get done, he's asking for
> someone to architect a system where any given process can be restricted
> to seeing/accessing a subset of the namespace (in the sense of "a tree
> of directories/files").  Eg: process Foo is allowed access to write to
> /etc/group, but _not_ allowed access to /etc/shadow, under any
> circumstances && Foo will be run as root.  Hell, maybe Foo is never able
> to even _see_ /etc/shadow (making it a true shadow file :).

This has already been done.  LSM provides the infrastructure, things
like LIDS and SubDomain do this fairly directly.  SELinux does this as
well using types as an intermediary.

thanks,
-chris
-- 
Linux Security Modules     http://lsm.immunix.org     http://lsm.bkbits.net

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-26  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-02  1:20 Using fs views to isolate untrusted processes: I need an assistant architect in the USA for Phase I of a DARPA funded linux kernel project Hans Reiser
2004-08-02  9:12 ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-08-02 17:29   ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-02 18:18     ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-02 19:02     ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-08-02 19:55       ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-02 22:10     ` David Greaves
2004-08-03  0:04       ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-03  4:30         ` Matt Stegman
2004-08-03  8:30         ` David Greaves
2004-08-03 10:08         ` Pierre Etchemaite
2004-08-03 10:58 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-08-04  5:44   ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-25 20:25 ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-25 20:56   ` Tim Hockin
2004-08-25 21:23     ` Mike Waychison
2004-08-26  6:31       ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-26 13:59         ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-25 23:19     ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-26  0:16       ` Mike Waychison
2004-08-26  0:50         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-26  1:06           ` Chris Wright
2004-08-26  4:16             ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-26  4:29               ` viro
2004-08-26  4:52                 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-26  5:01                   ` viro
2004-08-26  0:56         ` Chris Wright [this message]
2004-08-26  7:52         ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-26  8:48   ` Hans Reiser

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