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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Keith Whitwell <keith@tungstengraphics.com>,
	Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@yahoo.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New proposed DRM interface design
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 13:10:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040904121039.GB26419@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0409041253390.25475@skynet>

On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:04:17PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote:

 > releases, I would like to give those people a chance to use their graphics
 > cards, and the snapshots are not the only way, Intel have i915 Linux
 > drivers on their site from TG, they work on most kernels/distros, I get a
 > machine with i915 install Debian go to Intels website and download their
 > drivers, it all works, now why do I have to compile a kernel again?

Then a month later, Debian issues a kernel security errata.
You download and install it, and your 3d stops working.
(worse case, maybe even your 2d breaks).
The 'download third party drivers' thing is not a silver bullet.
It will screw end users over, just as equally as it claims to help them.

		Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-04 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-04  0:12 New proposed DRM interface design Dave Airlie
2004-09-04  0:44 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04  0:51   ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04  1:20     ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04  4:58       ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04  9:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04  9:43       ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04  9:47         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04  9:48         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-04  9:50           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04  9:45       ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04  9:48         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 10:23           ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 10:25             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 10:30               ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 10:44                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-04 10:54                   ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 11:17                     ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 12:58                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-09-04 21:06                     ` Lee Revell
2004-09-05 10:14                     ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-09-04 10:57                   ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:03                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 11:12                   ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 11:13                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 11:24                       ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 11:26                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 21:34                           ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 22:41                             ` viro
2004-09-04 23:33                               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-05  2:10                             ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-05  3:42                               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 11:42                     ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 11:50                       ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 21:35                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 22:06                         ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-05 12:00                           ` Alan Cox
2004-09-04 11:18                   ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:20                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 11:30                       ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:33                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 11:44                           ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:29                 ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 11:41                   ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 11:46                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 12:04                       ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 12:10                         ` Dave Jones [this message]
2004-09-04 12:35                           ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 12:25                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 21:45                           ` Lee Revell
2004-09-04 16:39                         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-04 11:54                     ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 12:08                       ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 12:17                         ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 12:21                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 12:32                             ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 12:30                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-04 12:36                             ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 22:17                               ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 22:21                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-04 23:08                                 ` Felix Kühling
2004-09-04 12:20                         ` Dave Jones
2004-09-04 13:52                           ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 15:36                             ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 15:56                               ` Dieter Nützel
2004-09-04 17:43                               ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 18:03                                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 12:07                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 15:05                                     ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 14:15                                       ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 15:33                                         ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 14:44                                           ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 14:58                                             ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 16:05                                             ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 15:13                                               ` Alan Cox
2004-09-07  8:43                                               ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-07 14:04                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-08 11:09                                                   ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-06  6:06                                           ` Ryan Underwood
2004-09-05 15:31                                       ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 17:27                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-05 21:12                                         ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 20:53                                           ` Alan Cox
2004-09-05 22:11                                             ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-05 22:59                                               ` Alan Cox
2004-09-06 20:58                                                 ` Hamie
2004-09-06 20:15                                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-06 21:38                                                     ` Hamie
2004-09-06 21:47                                                       ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-06 22:18                                                     ` Patrick McFarland
2004-09-07 19:21       ` Ian Romanick
2004-09-04  0:54 ` Alex Deucher
2004-09-04  0:59   ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04  1:25     ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 19:03       ` Alex Deucher
2004-09-04  3:51     ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04  4:52       ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04  6:04         ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04  7:36           ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04  7:53             ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04  8:25               ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04  8:37                 ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04  9:02                   ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04 16:01             ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 17:44               ` Keith Whitwell
2004-09-04  7:52           ` Dave Airlie
2004-09-04 15:46             ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]           ` <2191E8A1-FE89-11D8-BFDA-000A95F07A7A@fs.ei.tum.de>
2004-09-04 15:59             ` Jon Smirl
2004-09-04 21:35               ` Eric Anholt
2004-09-07 21:01               ` Ian Romanick
2004-09-04  9:27 ` Christoph Hellwig

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