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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies for !PREEMPT kernels
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:19:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040915061922.GA11683@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <414776CE.5030302@yahoo.com.au>


* Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> No, but I mean putting them right down into fastpaths like the vmscan
> one, for example.

it is a very simple no-parameters call to a function that reads a
likely-cached word and returns. The cost is in the 2-3 cycles range - a
_single_ cachemiss can be 10-100 times more expensive, and cachemisses
happen very frequently in every iteration of the VM _scanning_ path
since it (naturally and inevitably) deals with lots of sparsely
scattered data structures that havent been referenced for quite some
time.

The function (cond_resched()) triggers scheduling only very rarely, you
should not be worried about that aspect either.

> And if I remember correctly, you resorted to putting them into
> might_sleep as well (but I haven't read the code for a while, maybe
> you're now getting decent results without doing that).

i'm not arguing that now at all, that preemption model clearly has to be
an optional thing - at least initially.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-15  6:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-14  9:15 [patch] preempt-cleanup.patch, 2.6.9-rc2 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14  9:34 ` [printk] make console_conditional_schedule() __sched and use cond_resched() William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14  9:38 ` [patch] preempt-lock-need-resched.patch, 2.6.9-rc2 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14  9:51   ` [patch] sched: add cond_resched_softirq() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14  9:57     ` [patch] sched: fix latency in random driver Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:06       ` [patch] sched, ext3: fix scheduling latencies in ext3 Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:13         ` [patch] sched, vfs: fix scheduling latencies in invalidate_inodes() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:19         ` [patch] sched, vfs: fix scheduling latencies in prune_dcache() and select_parent() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:25           ` [patch] sched, net: fix scheduling latencies in netstat Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:44             ` [patch] sched, net: fix scheduling latencies in __release_sock Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:50               ` [patch] sched, mm: fix scheduling latencies in copy_page_range() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:56                 ` [patch] sched, mm: fix scheduling latencies in unmap_vmas() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:59                 ` [patch] sched, mm: fix scheduling latencies in get_user_pages() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:02                   ` [patch] sched, mm: fix scheduling latencies in filemap_sync() Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:06                     ` [patch] sched, tty: fix scheduling latencies in tty_io.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 10:53                       ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 12:00                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:18                           ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 12:27                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 12:11                               ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 11:08                       ` [patch] sched, pty: fix scheduling latencies in pty.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:12                         ` [patch] might_sleep() additions to fs-writeback.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:25                         ` [patch] fix keventd execution dependency Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 22:18                           ` Rusty Russell
2004-09-14 11:28                       ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies in mttr.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:32                         ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies in vgacon.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 11:35                         ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies in NTFS mount Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 13:31                           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-09-14 11:42                         ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies for !PREEMPT kernels Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 12:55                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-14 13:22                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 13:33                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-14 14:09                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 14:28                                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-14 15:03                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 18:05                                       ` Robert Love
2004-09-14 18:52                                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:02                                           ` Robert Love
2004-09-14 19:21                                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:19                                               ` Alan Cox
2004-09-15  0:22                                                 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15  1:46                                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15  2:00                                                     ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15  2:36                                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15  2:59                                                         ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 13:36                                                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-15 20:40                                                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15  1:18                                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:26                                               ` Robert Love
2004-09-14 21:06                                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 19:25                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 19:29                                               ` Robert Love
2004-09-14 19:34                                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15  1:02                                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15  1:39                                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15  2:11                                           ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 11:17                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15  9:56                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15  9:57                                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 10:12                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 16:31                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 16:39                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-14 14:54                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 22:55                                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-15  6:19                                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-09-15  8:23                                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-15  8:43                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 10:09                                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-15 10:21                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-16  1:03                                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-16  6:14                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15  0:35                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-09-14 13:25                         ` [patch] sched: fix scheduling latencies in mtrr.c Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 13:15                           ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 15:00                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-14 18:22                           ` Zwane Mwaikambo

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