From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mads Martin Joergensen Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 20:24:26 +0000 Subject: Re: feature requests Message-Id: <20040920202426.GU76919@mmj.dk> List-Id: References: <20040920191944.GA5112@cirrus.madduck.net> In-Reply-To: <20040920191944.GA5112@cirrus.madduck.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: mlmmj@mlmmj.org [ forgot to Cc: list, so resend ] * martin f krafft [Sep 20. 2004 22:10]: > also sprach Mads Martin Joergensen [2004.09.20.2204 +0200]: > > We send mails to the envelope from (Return-Path:) for confirmation > > of subscription. I'm sure you want that? > > it does not matter. Automatic replies are evil. Moreover, too many > legitimate users have invalid Return-Paths. But it is a far better > means than using the From header. I am just saying: do not rely on > the challenges only. I'm not going to subscribe people without them confirming. > > So what could be done simply treat postings to a subscribers only > > list from emails not subscribed, as if they were trying to > > subscribe to the nomail version of it. > > > > This way they only need one reply, and they are allowed to post > > from this address. > > > > To do it right, the mail that was originally sent, will of course > > be posted to the list, if the person subscribes to the nomail > > version--a little bit like moderation. > Wait, you said it would automatically subscribe them? I also think > that's a bad idea. If I get a confirmation request when I did not > consciously subscribe anywhere, I will delete it. Sure, so delete it. But IF you want to be able to post from this address you can reply to it, and be able to. > Whatever you do, please allow majordomo2-style aliases. You can do > challenges on top. Power-users will want to set aliases. In fact. > I have scripts to set it all up for me. What does majordomo2 style aliases look like? > That said, I subscribed to the mailing list and have not received > a confirmation yet. Nor am I getting mail. What could be wrong? > The address I used was mlmmj=mmj.dk@mass.madduck.net There was no mail from mass.madduck.net delivered to the mmj.dk MX, are you sure you sent it to the right address? You can subscribe such an email just fine. > You are using cryptographic confirmations for subscriptions, right? No. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.