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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>
Cc: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>,
	"Greg KH" <greg@kroah.com>, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Console: fall back to /dev/null when no console is availlable
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 07:43:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041006074305.A16588@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041005223621.GA4523@pclin040.win.tue.nl>; from aebr@win.tue.nl on Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 12:36:21AM +0200

On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 12:36:21AM +0200, Andries Brouwer wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:27:12PM +0100, Russell King wrote:
> > There's a related problem.  /sbin/hotplug.  I keep seeing odd failures
> > from /sbin/hotplug scripts which go away when I ensure that fd0,1,2 are
> > directed at something real.
> 
> Yes. In principle, user space must be able to handle the case
> where no fds 0,1,2 are available. For example in mount.c:
> 
>         while((fd = open("/dev/null", O_RDWR)) == 0 || fd == 1) ;
>         if (fd > 2)
>                 close(fd);
> 
> or so.

That's all well and good in theory, but do you really think that every
single userspace program handles this case correctly?

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 PCMCIA      - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/
                 2.6 Serial core

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-06  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-05 18:52 [PATCH] Console: fall back to /dev/null when no console is availlable Jörn Engel
2004-10-05 20:27 ` Russell King
2004-10-05 21:06   ` Greg KH
2004-10-05 21:13     ` Russell King
2004-10-06 15:00       ` Alan Cox
2004-10-06 17:41         ` Greg KH
2004-10-06 18:01           ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-06 18:18             ` Greg KH
2004-10-06 19:20               ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-06 18:26             ` Chris Wright
2004-10-06 18:16           ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-06 19:18           ` Alan Cox
2004-10-06 20:54             ` Greg KH
2004-10-06 20:29               ` Alan Cox
2004-10-06 21:45                 ` Russell King
2004-10-07  5:51                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-08  2:15                   ` Herbert Xu
2004-10-06 20:01           ` Russell King
2004-10-05 22:36   ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-06  6:43     ` Russell King [this message]
2004-10-07 14:41   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-10-05 21:58 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-06  4:34   ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-06  8:43     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-06 12:15       ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-06 13:07         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-06 13:33           ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-06 13:55             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-06 14:12               ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-06 14:23                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-06 15:28                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-06 15:36                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-06 15:51                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-05 23:30 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 12:16   ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-06 17:38 ` Greg KH
2004-10-06 18:04   ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-06 18:19     ` Greg KH
2004-10-06 19:23       ` Jörn Engel
2004-10-06 21:22         ` Thayne Harbaugh
2004-10-07  8:18           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-07  9:07             ` Russell King
2004-10-07  9:46               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-06 18:37 ` Gianni Tedesco
2004-10-06 19:08   ` Jörn Engel

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