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From: Martins Krikis <mkrikis@yahoo.com>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@elka.pw.edu.pl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com,
	mkrikis@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Announce] "iswraid" (ICH5R/ICH6R ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.28-pre3
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 16:03:00 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041009230300.75239.qmail@web13724.mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200410092337.36488.bzolnier@elka.pw.edu.pl>

--- Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@elka.pw.edu.pl> wrote:

> I may sound like an ignorant but...
> 
> Why can't device mapper be merged into 2.4 instead?

"Instead" is the key word here... That would mean that
Boji's and my work has been largely in vain and that the
driver that to my best knowledge currently provides the
simplest (from a user's point of view) cooperation with
Intel RAID OROM and the most comlete feature-set regarding
Intel RAID metadata interpretation and updates would not
make it to the kernel. I have nothing against device mapper
being merged into 2.4 but I don't consider that a fair
reason for not considering iswraid.
 
> Is there something wrong with 2.4 device mapper patch?

I don't think so. However, I do believe that iswraid has
some advantages, one of them being the ability to just link
it statically with the rest of the kernel and not needing
any user-space support code, i.e., initrd is not necessary.
Also, I do not believe that dm+dmraid are currently
capable of updating the Intel RAID metadata in case of
errors. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

> It would more convenient (same driver for 2.4 and 2.6)
> and would benefit users of other software RAIDs
> (easier transition to 2.6).

If you expect the transitioning from ataraid to dm+dmraid
to be so hard that it is best to do it separately from
the switch to a 2.6 kernel, then I think 2 things are true:
1) there might be something positive about the simple
usage of ataraid subdrivers,
2) the users of Intel RAID metadata might benefit by
having two drivers supporting them in 2.4 kernels---the
one with the "simple, ataraid-style" usage and "the one
for the future".

My email archive and the feedback on iswraid's project
page actually contains many requests for an iswraid port
to 2.6. Which I'm reading as a sign that some users
actually like it.

The main features of iswraid are listed in
Documentation/iswraid.txt, almost at the top of the file.
I believe that several of them distingiush it from 
other ataraid subdrivers in a positive way, and there
was certainly a lot of hard work that went into this driver.
I don't know how dm+dmraid would compare, but if you do,
I'll be most interested to learn about it.

  Martins Krikis
  Storage Components Division
  Intel Massachusetts



		


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-09 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87d5zzfds7.fsf@yahoo.com>
2004-10-09 20:44 ` [Announce] "iswraid" (ICH5R/ICH6R ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.28-pre3 Martins Krikis
2004-10-09 21:37   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-10-09 22:07     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-09 23:22       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-10-09 23:36         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-09 23:50           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-10-11 11:19             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-10-12 14:56               ` Martins Krikis
2005-01-18 17:28               ` iswraid and 2.4.x? Martins Krikis
2005-01-18 15:05                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-18 18:13                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-01-18 15:13                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-18 18:34                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-01-18 19:56                       ` Martins Krikis
2005-01-18 20:55                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-01-18 21:14                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-01-18 21:17                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-01-18 21:59                           ` Martins Krikis
2004-10-09 23:03     ` Martins Krikis [this message]
2004-10-09 23:44       ` [Announce] "iswraid" (ICH5R/ICH6R ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.28-pre3 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-10-09 23:54         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-10  1:00         ` Martins Krikis
2004-10-10  2:06           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-10-10  2:40             ` Martins Krikis
2004-10-10 18:19   ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <bc8bcc5104100918206842d6d3@mail.gmail.com>
2004-10-10  2:08 ` Martins Krikis

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