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From: Manu Abraham <manu@kromtek.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Paolo Ciarrocchi <paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: BK kernel workflow
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:09:29 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200410291209.30255.manu@kromtek.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041028224534.GB29335@work.bitmover.com>

On Fri October 29 2004 2:45 am, Larry McVoy wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 11:03:42PM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
> > [complaints about the awful horrible evil BK2CVS tool]
>
>  You
> do not get to use BK metadata to do so either, those are also our rules.
>

The contents of the BK, ie the metadata is Free software, licensed under the 
GPL. Therefore i don't understand .. Isn't this then a violation of the GPL ?

Isn't this something like M$ stating that you are the property of M$ because 
you are using one of their systems. Worser still ? Do you mean to say M$ owns 
all *.doc, *.xls  files etc as an example... If so, then that is really 
bad ..

> Free software, at least
> some of it, is no more than a copy.
>

sarcasm ? Even the linux kernel is free software ..
Isn't this is just like M$ marketing talk ?

> It's my claim that I value free software even *more* than you do.  Why?

It's a contradiction, considering the earlier two statements.

I agree to the fact that BK has made Kernel development faster, which has 
therefore helped.

I'm not a BK user. I download the tarballs, but the statements by Mr. Larry 
has shaken me a bit. 

As per the statements by Mr. Larry, what i understood is that the BK metadata 
belongs to Mr. Larry legally as per the US rules and regulations.


Manu
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-29  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <41752E53.8060103@pobox.com>
     [not found] ` <20041019153126.GG18939@work.bitmover.com>
2004-10-19 16:06   ` BK kernel workflow Jeff Garzik
2004-10-19 21:33     ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-19 21:38       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-19 21:54         ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-19 22:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-20  7:35             ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-23 16:12             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-24 10:24               ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-24 14:44                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-24 16:44                   ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-24 23:32                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-25 11:33                       ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-25 11:46                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 12:29                         ` Joe Perches
2004-10-25 13:39                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 15:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-25 15:43                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 16:10                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-25 17:22                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 20:04                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-26  2:19                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 16:20                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-25 16:47                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 17:12                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-25 17:34                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-25 17:18                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-25 17:37                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-26  0:06                                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-26  0:51                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-26  2:21                                       ` Miles Bader
2004-10-27  2:05                                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-27  3:00                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-27  4:18                                           ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-27 16:45                                             ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-27 18:12                                             ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-27 20:56                                           ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-27 21:20                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-28  1:14                                               ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-28  1:34                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-27 21:45                                             ` Alan Cox
2004-10-31 19:50                                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-28  9:20                                           ` James Bruce
2004-10-28 11:39                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-28 13:53                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28 14:06                                               ` Xavier Bestel
2004-10-28 15:10                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28 19:20                                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-10-28 19:25                                                   ` David Schwartz
2004-10-28 19:38                                                     ` Kevin P. Fleming
2004-10-28 19:22                                                       ` Alan Cox
2004-10-28 23:22                                                       ` David Schwartz
2004-10-28 23:59                                                         ` David S. Miller
2004-10-29  0:25                                                           ` David Schwartz
2004-10-29 14:31                                                             ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-29 14:35                                                               ` Xavier Bestel
2004-10-29 17:02                                                               ` The requested ruling (Was: BK kernel workflow) Scott Lockwood
2004-10-30  2:08                                                                 ` David Schwartz
2004-10-28 19:59                                                   ` BK kernel workflow Adrian Bunk
2004-10-28 21:35                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-30  6:51                                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-30 23:46                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-30 23:05                                                           ` Alan Cox
2004-10-31 17:47                                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31  0:28                                                           ` Robert Love
2004-10-31  1:11                                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-29 17:19                                                   ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 17:36                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-29 18:06                                                       ` Stephen Frost
2004-10-29 18:20                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-29 18:08                                                       ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 18:21                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-29 18:33                                                         ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-29 18:55                                                           ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 19:14                                                             ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-30  5:04                                                               ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-30 20:42                                                                 ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-30 23:35                                                                   ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31  0:20                                                                     ` David Schwartz
2004-10-31  2:37                                                                     ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-31  3:34                                                                       ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31  4:01                                                                         ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-31  4:39                                                                           ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31  2:44                                                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-29 19:39                                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-29 20:33                                                               ` Stephen Frost
2004-10-29 23:38                                                                 ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 21:11                                                               ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-30  2:39                                                               ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-30  2:02                                                             ` Al Viro
2004-10-29 19:13                                                           ` Ramón Rey Vicente
     [not found]                                                             ` <45898.65.208.227.246.1099077395.squirrel@www.lrsehosting.com>
2004-10-29 19:26                                                               ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-10-29 23:01                                                                 ` Tim Hockin
2004-10-29 20:32                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-29 22:41                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-30 11:38                                                           ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-31 21:03                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-31 21:14                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31 21:21                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-31 21:35                                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31 21:46                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-31 23:44                                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-11-01  3:16                                                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2004-11-01  4:57                                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-11-01  8:39                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-26  1:01                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-27  2:30                                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-27  3:54                                         ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-27 20:58                                           ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-27 21:16                                             ` Joe Perches
2004-10-28  0:54                                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28  1:49                                               ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-28  2:35                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-28  3:09                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28 21:03                                                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-28 21:39                                                     ` Eric Mudama
2004-10-28 22:45                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-28 22:54                                                       ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-29  8:09                                                       ` Manu Abraham [this message]
2004-10-29 14:28                                                         ` Scott Lockwood
2004-10-29 15:49                                                         ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-29 16:41                                                           ` David Schwartz
2004-10-29 17:20                                                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-10-30  0:41                                                               ` David Schwartz
2004-10-29 19:03                                                             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-29 20:00                                                               ` Ryan Anderson
2004-10-30  0:41                                                               ` David Schwartz
2004-10-31 20:47                                               ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-31 20:53                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-31 22:07                                                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-10-28  1:05                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.1098759000.989.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2004-10-30  3:55                                     ` Pete Zaitcev
2004-10-25 19:51                                 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-26  0:58                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-26  2:23                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 18:18                               ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-25 23:01                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-26  1:28                                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-10-26  2:26                                   ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-26  6:57                                     ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-26 13:09                                   ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-10-24 17:44                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-24 17:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-24 18:39                     ` Michael Buesch
2004-10-26  7:32                       ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-24 22:33                   ` Roman Zippel
2004-10-24 23:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-19 23:27           ` Greg KH
2004-10-25 13:01             ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-25 14:39               ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-25 15:48               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-25 16:35                 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-25 22:05                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-20  8:31     ` maximilian attems
2004-10-20  9:05       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-26  7:38 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-26 14:23 ` Larry McVoy
2004-10-26 18:16   ` Ryan Anderson
2004-10-26 19:22     ` Larry McVoy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-26 15:54 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-26 20:47 ` Larry McVoy
     [not found] <fa.gikv4k0.1tk6shk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.d7r9f2v.1i6a6on@ifi.uio.no>
2004-10-30 20:54   ` walt

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