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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com
Cc: Karsten Wiese <annabellesgarden@yahoo.de>,
	Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>, Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>,
	"K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net>,
	Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Michal Schmidt <xschmi00@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>
Subject: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm2-V0.7.1
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:16:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041104151631.GA24056@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OF4142E065.5AF4099C-ON86256F42.00513CF0@raytheon.com>


* Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com <Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com> wrote:

> Let me follow up briefly on the regression I noticed yesterday on ping
> responses from an SMP system with one real time task running. [...]

icmp/ping replies are handled by ksoftirqd. Once a networking request
has been handed to ksoftirqd it cannot be redirected to another CPU,
because softirq processing is fundamentally per-CPU. So if the network
interrupt hits the CPU where the RT-task is running then the RT task
will starve that ksoftirq instance (and hence the reply) even if another
CPU in the system is idle.

i agree that this is an SMP/RT artifact that should be fixed. hardirq
workload can be redirected to other CPUs because it's single-threaded,
but it's not that easy for softirq workload.

i suspect the same phenomenon causes some of the other scheduling
artifacts ('frozen' X) you've noticed.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-04 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-04 15:02 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm2-V0.7.1 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-04 15:16 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-11-04 15:19   ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-04 19:39 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-04 19:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-04 17:52 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-04 16:53 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-04 16:22 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-04 16:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-04 16:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-04 18:59     ` john cooper
2004-11-04 19:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-04 23:25         ` john cooper
2004-11-05 21:42         ` Scott Wood
2004-11-05 22:36           ` Bill Huey
2004-11-08 14:35             ` Esben Nielsen
2004-11-08 15:42               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-08 22:47               ` Bill Huey
2004-11-06  7:42           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-04 16:04 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-04 16:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-04 16:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-03 20:40 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-03 18:24 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-10-18 14:50 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-rc4-mm1-U5 Ingo Molnar
2004-10-19 12:46 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-rc4-mm1-U6 Ingo Molnar
2004-10-19 18:00   ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-rc4-mm1-U7 Ingo Molnar
2004-10-20  9:45     ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-rc4-mm1-U8 Ingo Molnar
2004-10-21 13:27       ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-rc4-mm1-U9 Ingo Molnar
2004-10-22 13:35         ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-rc4-mm1-U9.3 Ingo Molnar
2004-10-22 15:50           ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-U10 Ingo Molnar
2004-10-22 17:56             ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-U10.2 Ingo Molnar
2004-10-25 10:40               ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0 Ingo Molnar
2004-10-27  0:15                 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.3 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-03 10:58                   ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc1-mm2-V0.7.1 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-03 13:44                     ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2004-11-03 13:46                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-03 17:53                         ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2004-11-03 20:41                           ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2004-11-03 20:43                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-03 21:05                               ` Lorenzo Allegrucci
2004-11-03 19:33                     ` john cooper
2004-11-03 23:03                     ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2004-11-04  6:56                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-04 19:34                     ` Gunther Persoons
2004-11-04 20:31                       ` Chris Friesen

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