From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>
To: Michael Poole <mdpoole@troilus.org>
Cc: "Kyle Moffett" <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
=?utf-8?q?Raphaël Rigo LKML?= <lkml@twilight-hall.net>,
"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
davids@webmaster.com,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GPL Violation of 'sveasoft' with GPL Linux Kernel/Busybox +code
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 23:28:16 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200411092328.16426.dtor_core@ameritech.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87actqfigw.fsf@sanosuke.troilus.org>
On Tuesday 09 November 2004 11:14 pm, Michael Poole wrote:
> Kyle Moffett writes:
>
> > > You can fully exercise your rights under the GPL; they are not
> > > restricted. However, you cannot expect future support from Sveasoft.
> > But if I paid $20 for one year of said support?
>
> The contract might have a termination clause triggered if you do a
> handstand or file a patent lawsuit against Sveasoft. By your
> argument, that would make the contract breach the GPL, since you could
> not use the GPLed software while doing those things -- which is
> ridiculous on its face.
>
> > > Only your contract entitles you to that support, and if you do
> > > something to terminate your contract, it is outside the GPL's scope.
> > What _is_ inside the GPL's scope is that no contract may require me
> > to abstain from my GPL rights. If I use my full GPL rights, then they
> > are telling me that I break the contract and lose my $20 support.
>
> That depends greatly on the wording of the contract.
>
> Interestingly, the only description I can find on Sveasoft's web page
> says this:
>
> Sveasoft firmware and support is available for a yearly $20 USD
> subscription fee. A subscription includes unlimited access to
> firmware upgrades and unlimited access to priority support.
>
http://www.sveasoft.com/modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3868
> Post subject: I am a Sveasoft subscriber, can I redistribute?
> ...
> The policy for pre-release firmware is different. You may choose to
> redistribute only those portions of pre-release firmware specifically
> covered by the GPL license. Those portions of the distribution that are
> separate additions developed by Sveasoft as part of a pre-release
> distribution may not be re-distributed. Redistribution of pre-release
> firmware that includes Sveasoft's non-GPL code will result in the
> termination of your subscription.
>
So it looks like they are in clear, unless those separate additions are
derived from GPLed software.
--
Dmitry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-10 4:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-07 17:27 GPL Violation of 'sveasoft' with GPL Linux Kernel/Busybox + code Shawn Starr
2004-11-07 19:33 ` Raphaël Rigo LKML
2004-11-07 19:38 ` Shawn Starr
2004-11-07 21:16 ` Daniel Egger
2004-11-08 1:14 ` David Schwartz
2004-11-08 14:56 ` Pedro Venda (SYSADM)
2004-11-08 20:53 ` David Schwartz
2004-11-08 15:24 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-08 19:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-11-08 21:33 ` Pedro Venda (SYSADM)
2004-11-08 21:54 ` David Schwartz
2004-11-08 23:25 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-08 20:53 ` GPL Violation of 'sveasoft' with GPL Linux Kernel/Busybox +code David Schwartz
2004-11-08 23:00 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-09 2:32 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-09 4:08 ` David Rees
2004-11-09 4:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-09 9:47 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-09 19:30 ` David Schwartz
2004-11-09 19:45 ` Chris Friesen
2004-11-09 20:23 ` David Schwartz
2004-11-09 20:48 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-09 23:06 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-10 1:47 ` David Schwartz
2004-11-10 9:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-11-10 18:14 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-10 19:32 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-10 20:09 ` Stuart MacDonald
2004-11-10 21:18 ` Trever L. Adams
2004-11-09 23:22 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-10 1:34 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-11-10 2:01 ` Michael Poole
2004-11-10 3:02 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-11-10 4:14 ` Michael Poole
2004-11-10 4:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2004-11-10 21:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-11-10 23:09 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-11-10 22:14 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-15 14:47 ` David Woodhouse
2004-11-10 23:26 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-10 5:07 ` David Schwartz
2004-11-10 1:47 ` David Schwartz
2004-11-12 17:04 ` Horst von Brand
2004-11-09 21:13 ` Stuart MacDonald
2004-11-09 2:23 ` GPL Violation of 'sveasoft' with GPL Linux Kernel/Busybox + code Paul Jakma
2004-11-10 10:21 ` David Woodhouse
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