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From: Bill Huey (hui) <bhuey@lnxw.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>,
	Mark Johnson <Mark_H_Johnson@RAYTHEON.COM>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Amit Shah <amit.shah@codito.com>,
	Karsten Wiese <annabellesgarden@yahoo.de>,
	Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>,
	emann@mrv.com, Gunther Persoons <gunther_persoons@spymac.com>,
	"K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net>,
	Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>,
	Shane Shrybman <shrybman@aei.ca>,
	Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Michal Schmidt <xschmi00@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>
Subject: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.32-6
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 21:58:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041210055810.GA30416@nietzsche.lynx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1102655656.3238.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:14:16AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 21:01 -0800, Bill Huey wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 01:23:38PM -0600, Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com wrote:
> > > I may take this "off line" if it goes on too much longer. A little
> > > "view of the customer" is good for the whole group, but if it
> > > gets too much into my specific application, I don't see the benefit.
> > 
> > Taking offline would cut the rest of the developers off from having
> > any empirical data to work with. It's a bad idea. The entire point
> > of the RT kernel and app is to characterize the behavior of the system
> > so that fringe events happen and so that they can be tracked down and
> > eventually solved. Continue on IMO. :)
> 
> I second the motion. It's a fun read ;-)

Like your SLAB adventures. I thought it was a bit bizzare that it was
made fully preemptable and it any time you get another developer able
to hammer on this, like you, is alway an encouraging sign for the rest
of us on this project. :)

Unfortunately, jackd is only one program and what's needed is a broader
set of apps that can push the system much harder, along with jackd, to
see where things blow up. SMP is a likely trigger for all of this stuff.
In particular, shared-exclusive lock semantics under high contention
situations, vma access, etc... We'll see.

bill


  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-10  5:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-09 19:23 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.32-6 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 20:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-10  5:01 ` Bill Huey
2004-12-10  5:14   ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-10  5:58     ` Bill Huey [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-13 14:10 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 21:58 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 22:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 20:49 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 21:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 20:38 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 19:54 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 18:15 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 20:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 18:10 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 19:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 19:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-10 23:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-11 16:59   ` john cooper
2004-12-12  4:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-13 23:45       ` john cooper
2004-12-14 13:01         ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-14 14:28           ` john cooper
2004-12-14 16:53             ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-11 17:59   ` Esben Nielsen
2004-12-11 18:59     ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-11 19:50       ` Esben Nielsen
2004-12-11 22:34         ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-13 21:55           ` Bill Huey
2004-12-13 22:15             ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-13 22:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-13 22:31   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 17:22 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 17:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 20:34   ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-09 22:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 23:16       ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-10  4:26       ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-10 11:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-10 15:26           ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-09 16:56 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 17:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 17:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 18:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 19:04 ` Esben Nielsen
2004-12-09 19:58   ` john cooper
2004-12-09 20:16   ` Lee Revell
2004-12-09 15:16 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 16:17 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-12-09 17:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 14:46 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-09 14:14 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-12-07 21:41 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-16 13:09 [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-1 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-16 13:40 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.27-3 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-17 12:42   ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.28-0 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-18 12:35     ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm1-V0.7.28-1 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-18 16:46       ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm2-V0.7.29-0 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-22  0:54         ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm2-V0.7.30-2 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-23 17:58           ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm2-V0.7.30-9 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-24 10:16             ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm2-V0.7.30-10 Ingo Molnar
2004-12-03 20:58               ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm2-V0.7.32-0 Ingo Molnar
2004-12-07 13:29                 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.32-4 Ingo Molnar
2004-12-07 14:11                   ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.32-6 Ingo Molnar
2004-12-08  4:31                     ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-08  8:34                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-08 16:07                         ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-08 16:18                           ` Lee Revell
2004-12-08 16:52                             ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-08 16:58                               ` Lee Revell
2004-12-09  9:02                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09  2:45                           ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-09 12:11                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 14:50                               ` K.R. Foley
2004-12-08 17:13                     ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-08 18:14                       ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-08 19:03                         ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-08 21:39                           ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-12-08 22:11                             ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-09  9:32                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-09 13:36                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-09  9:06                       ` Ingo Molnar

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