From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1CiZZg-00075Z-Qd for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 09:40:48 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CiZZe-00074b-0A for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 09:40:46 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CiZZZ-00072h-Tr for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 09:40:42 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CiZZZ-00072X-QB for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 09:40:41 -0500 Received: from [212.43.237.68] (helo=kotoba.storever.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CiZOk-00043t-Ng for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 09:29:31 -0500 Received: from ASSP-nospam (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kotoba.storever.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298A2F7698D0 for ; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:29:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost) by ASSP-nospam ; 26 Dec 04 14:29:30 -0000 From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" Organization: enbug.org To: The development of GRUB 2 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:29:42 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <200412260238.58036.okuji@enbug.org> <87652pl09z.fsf@marco.marco-g.com> In-Reply-To: <87652pl09z.fsf@marco.marco-g.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200412261529.42676.okuji@enbug.org> Subject: Re: fosdem X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:40:46 -0000 On Sunday 26 December 2004 13:19, Marco Gerards wrote: > I considered giving a talk about the internals of GRUB 2 in the Hurd > developers room, although I'm not sure if that talk will take place. > I am way too shy to give such public talk, sorry... IHMO, you are the best one for such a talk, since you are the most active developer currently (sorry that it's not me). I'd like to describe my idea. The meaning of attending a conference is, in my definition, to meet people. With this opportunity, you can get touch with other developers and sometimes they are extremely talented. So this may give more developers, this may give you enlightenment (such as really new ideas) or this may give you more good friends. In any case, this is very useful for your life. And, the most effective way to begin talking with people is to make a presentation, because people recognize how you look, your name, your interest, etc., thus it becomes easier to speak something to you at the first time. I understand that you hesitate. I had the same feeling when I was younger. But it is not shameful to do a public talk at all. In particular, if you make a good (or not bad) presentation, you would feel satisfied. Even if it is a failure, you could grow thanks to this experience, and you would definitely be able to make a better one next time. I myself don't plan to do this, because I'm not active at the moment, I think I will have to make one (not for GRUB, though) in LSM/RMLL next year again, and I'd like someone else to do this. The last reason is important for me, since becoming a presentator is the only way to obtain public interest on you, if you are not the project maintainer. I personally believe that all developers should be appreciated equally, but people only see maintainers in reality. I feel this is unfair. > Who on this mailing list will go to FOSDEM? It would be nice if we > could meet there so we can see each other in real life. :) I'm planning to go, perhaps only one day. It takes only one hour for me to go to the university, so I have no reason to stay there. Okuji