From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Robert Wisniewski <bob@watson.ibm.com>
Cc: trz@us.ibm.com, karim@opersys.com, richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com,
michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ltt-dev@shafik.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] relayfs for 2.6.10: locking/lockless implementation
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:48:17 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050114234817.GA6786@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16872.19899.179380.51583@kix.watson.ibm.com>
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
A: No.
Q: Should I include quotations after my reply?
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 05:57:21PM -0500, Robert Wisniewski wrote:
> Greg,
> There are a couple variables used throughout relayfs code that could
> be modified at any point "simultaneously" by different processes. These
> variables were not declared volatile, thus when we modify them we need to
> tell the compiler to refetch from memory as another process could have
> changed out from under the current stream of execution since the last time
> there were accessed in the function. An alternative would be to mark the
> variables that we care about as volatile.
marking them volatile does not protect across cpus. Just using a normal
atomic_t will work properly.
> I am not sure how best to make
> that tradeoff (i.e., always forcing a refetch by marking a variable
> volatile or only at points were we know we need to by memory clobbering) or
> on what side the Linux community comes down on. We certainly would be
> happy to go either way with the relayfs code, i.e., mark them variable and
> used the standard atomic operations.
Just use atomic_t and don't mess with volatile. See the archives for
why that (volatile) doesn't work like that.
> That explains compare_and_store, atomic_add, and atomic_sub.
No it doesn't, why do your own version of this function with the
barrier() function?
> It does not explain the memory clobbering around the atomic set
> operation, which I'm guessing was there just to be consistent with the
> other operations, and could, I believe, be removed. Hopefully that
> helps answer the question. If it doesn't please feel free to ask
> more. Thanks.
So these can just be removed, and the code changed to use the proper
atomic calls? If so, please do so.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-14 23:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-14 22:57 [PATCH 3/4] relayfs for 2.6.10: locking/lockless implementation Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-14 23:48 ` Greg KH [this message]
2005-01-15 1:30 ` Robert Wisniewski
2005-01-19 19:25 ` Greg KH
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2005-01-14 3:04 Karim Yaghmour
2005-01-14 19:17 ` Greg KH
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