All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: zippel@linux-m68k.org, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Serious problems with HFS+
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:36:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050313203604.GF3163@waste.org> (raw)

I've noticed a few problems with HFS+ support in recent kernels on
another user's machine running Ubuntu (Warty) running
2.6.8.1-3-powerpc. I'm not in a position to extensively test or fix
either of these problem because of the fs tools situation so I'm just
passing this on.

First, it reports inappropriate blocks to stat(2). It uses 4096 byte
blocks rather than 512 byte blocks which stat callers are expecting.
This seriously confuses du(1) (and me, for a bit). Looks like it may
be forgetting to set s_blocksize_bits.

Second, if an HFS+ filesystem mounted via Firewire or USB becomes
detached, the filesystem appears to continue working just fine. I can
find on the entire tree, despite memory pressure. I can even create
new files that continue to appear in directory listings! Writes to
such files succeed (they're async, of course) and the typical app is
none the wiser. It's only when apps attempt to read later that they
encounter problems. It turns out that various apps including scp
ignore IO errors on read and silently copy zero-filled files to the
destination. So I got this report as "why aren't the pictures I took
off my camera visible on my website?"

This is obviously a really nasty failure mode. At the very least, open
of new files should fail with -EIO. Preferably the fs should force a
read-only remount on IO errors. Given that the vast majority of HFS+
filesystems Linux is likely to be used with are on hotpluggable media,
I think this FS should be marked EXPERIMENTAL until such integrity
problems are addressed.

Having the whole directory tree seemingly pinned in memory is probably
something that wants addressing as well.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

             reply	other threads:[~2005-03-13 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-13 20:36 Matt Mackall [this message]
2005-03-14  3:23 ` Serious problems with HFS+ Rogério Brito
2005-03-14 10:18 ` Roman Zippel
2005-03-15  3:11   ` Matt Mackall

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20050313203604.GF3163@waste.org \
    --to=mpm@selenic.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=zippel@linux-m68k.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.