From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: md@Linux.IT, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
debian-legal@lists.debian.org, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:32:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050404193204.GD4087@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050404190518.GA17087@wonderland.linux.it>
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:05:18PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Apr 04, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
>
> > What if we don't want to do so? I know I personally posted a solution
> Then probably the extremists in Debian will manage to kill your driver,
> like they did with tg3 and others.
And as they are doing with e.g. the complete gcc documentation.
No documentation for the C compiler (not even a documentation of the
options) will be neither fun for the users of Debian nor for the Debian
maintainers - but it's the future of Debian...
The Debian Social Contract says:
Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software
The next "editorial changes" to your social contract might remove the
"Our Users and"...
Seriously:
There might be real problems with non-distributable firmware, but the
known extremist position of Debian on such issues produces negative
emotions if something like this comes from Debian.
> This sucks, yes.
Agreed.
> ciao,
> Marco (@debian.org)
cu
Adrian
--
"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
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2005-04-04 10:09 non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice Sven Luther
2005-04-04 10:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-04 10:59 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 7:17 ` Jes Sorensen
2005-04-07 11:27 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 13:26 ` Michael Poole
2005-04-04 14:16 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 17:51 ` Greg KH
2005-04-04 18:21 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:12 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-04 19:24 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:36 ` Roland Dreier
2005-04-04 18:27 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:17 ` Greg KH
2005-04-04 19:29 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-04 20:23 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 21:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-04 21:16 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 20:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-04 21:19 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 8:19 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-05 8:32 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 8:49 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-05 9:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05 9:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 9:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05 9:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 9:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-05 10:42 ` Andres Salomon
2005-04-05 9:46 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 12:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 12:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-06 19:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-04-07 9:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-07 10:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-04-07 11:27 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 11:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-04-07 18:42 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 3:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-04-08 6:41 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 9:30 ` Ian Campbell
2005-04-05 9:36 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 15:21 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 21:37 ` Don Armstrong
2005-04-05 4:23 ` [PATCH 00/04] Load keyspan firmware with hotplug Jan Harkes
2005-04-05 4:26 ` [PATCH 01/04] " Jan Harkes
2005-04-05 4:27 ` [PATCH 02/04] " Jan Harkes
2005-04-05 4:28 ` [PATCH 03/04] " Jan Harkes
2005-04-05 4:51 ` [PATCH 00/04] " Dmitry Torokhov
2005-04-05 8:32 ` Kay Sievers
2005-04-05 11:39 ` Jan Harkes
2005-04-05 9:22 ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-04-05 11:45 ` Jan Harkes
2005-04-05 14:36 ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-04-05 15:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-04-05 15:37 ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-04-05 15:31 ` Jan Harkes
2005-04-05 16:46 ` Marcel Holtmann
2005-04-05 16:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-04-05 5:36 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 18:39 ` non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice Matthew Wilcox
2005-04-04 19:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-04 20:27 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 20:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-04 21:24 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 21:58 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 9:33 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 1:05 ` Alan Cox
2005-04-07 7:28 ` Jes Sorensen
2005-04-07 7:25 ` Jes Sorensen
2005-04-07 8:04 ` David Schmitt
2005-04-07 8:17 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-07 8:32 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-07 8:46 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-07 8:26 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-07 20:16 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-07 23:20 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08 3:55 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08 7:41 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 12:30 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-04 19:05 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-04-04 19:14 ` Greg KH
2005-04-04 19:32 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2005-04-05 14:05 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-05 15:39 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-07 21:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 7:22 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08 11:23 ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-08 17:34 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 17:42 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08 18:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 18:16 ` Rich Walker
2005-04-08 18:42 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-10 9:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-04-11 20:55 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-09 0:31 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-09 14:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-09 20:31 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08 11:53 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-04 19:41 ` Sven Luther
[not found] <h-GOHD.A.KL.s2aUCB@murphy>
2005-04-05 12:03 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-05 12:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 14:02 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 17:30 ` Horst von Brand
2005-04-05 13:57 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 14:53 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 20:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-07 21:05 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 0:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-08 6:54 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 17:20 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] <ea-O2D.A.6pD.MWoUCB@murphy>
2005-04-05 14:37 ` Humberto Massa
[not found] <lLj-vC.A.92G.w4pUCB@murphy>
2005-04-05 15:00 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-05 15:50 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-05 17:53 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-05 18:17 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-05 18:34 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-05 18:50 ` Chris Friesen
2005-04-05 18:56 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-06 0:10 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-06 7:34 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-06 7:46 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 7:47 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-05 19:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 19:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 19:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 20:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-05 20:16 ` Brian Gerst
2005-04-05 20:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-05 21:13 ` Brian Gerst
2005-04-06 9:04 ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-06 20:15 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-04-08 7:44 ` Sven Luther
[not found] <UwJpRC.A.8E.5erUCB@murphy>
2005-04-05 16:53 ` Humberto Massa
[not found] <t1ufbC.A.C6H.38tUCB@murphy>
2005-04-05 19:00 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-06 20:36 ` Raul Miller
[not found] <08Gc5.A.AFC.QJPVCB@murphy>
2005-04-07 12:15 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-08 2:10 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-08 3:05 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08 3:56 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-08 7:57 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 20:48 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-09 11:19 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-10 3:07 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-10 4:20 ` Glenn Maynard
2005-04-10 20:18 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 1:34 ` Glenn Maynard
2005-04-11 2:40 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 20:17 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-11 11:43 ` Anthony DeRobertis
2005-04-11 0:26 ` Henning Makholm
2005-04-11 2:40 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-08 4:05 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-08 7:54 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 7:51 ` Sven Luther
[not found] <L0f93D.A.68G.D2OVCB@murphy>
2005-04-07 12:29 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 13:03 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-07 13:30 ` John Stoffel
2005-04-07 13:34 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-04-07 14:15 ` Josselin Mouette
2005-04-08 8:06 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-08 9:46 ` Ralph Corderoy
[not found] <vVUko.A.NkD.kNTVCB@murphy>
2005-04-07 14:30 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 14:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-04-07 15:01 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-07 15:07 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] <sSO4cD.A.ELC.VTdVCB@murphy>
2005-04-08 12:08 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-08 12:20 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
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2005-04-11 11:44 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-11 11:51 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-11 11:54 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-11 13:36 ` Michael Poole
2005-04-11 19:31 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-11 19:46 ` Michael Poole
2005-04-11 20:29 ` Raul Miller
[not found] <dpBgeB.A.8M.o1nWCB@murphy>
2005-04-11 13:44 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-11 16:12 Marco Colombo
2005-04-11 16:25 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-11 20:54 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-11 21:07 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-12 0:40 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-12 5:40 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-12 16:14 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-12 18:45 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-13 2:23 ` Zan Lynx
2005-04-13 14:53 ` Marco Colombo
2005-04-13 19:47 ` Sven Luther
2005-04-14 18:03 ` Marco Colombo
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2005-04-12 9:41 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12 16:44 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 17:50 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-12 19:05 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 21:37 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-14 1:54 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-14 5:13 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-12 18:53 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-12 19:15 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 20:00 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-12 22:45 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-13 5:46 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-13 6:28 ` Sean Kellogg
2005-04-13 13:55 ` Raul Miller
2005-04-13 9:17 ` Bodo Eggert
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2005-04-12 11:44 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-12 19:01 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-12 21:31 ` Raul Miller
[not found] <Xuc2QB.A._uB.h6_WCB@murphy>
2005-04-12 17:29 ` Humberto Massa
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2005-04-12 20:23 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-14 1:37 ` David Schwartz
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2005-04-14 12:18 ` Humberto Massa
2005-04-14 17:44 ` David Schwartz
2005-04-14 18:43 ` Raul Miller
[not found] <9rcYQC.A.LsH.E_qXCB@murphy>
2005-04-14 18:26 ` Humberto Massa
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