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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: freeze_processes questions
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 00:57:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050405225751.GA1353@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200504060046.18159.rjw@sisk.pl>

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Hi!

> > > 2) We can try to force uninterruptible tasks to get their "signals" anyway using
> > > wake_up_state() directly on them (which I don't like as much).
> > 
> > They are probably uninterruptible for a reason...
> > 
> > If something is staying in UNINTERRUPTIBLE for more than 1 second, it
> > is going to cause problems elsewhere, anyway. Do you see that happening?
> 
> Probably.  Please see, for example, this message sent to l-k:
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=111268969510393&w=2

...hmm, perhaps kseriod needs suspend/resume support, or something;
but that does not mean we should handle *all* uninterruptible tasks
that way.

> I can easily trigger a similar behavior with an uninterruptible task and I
> have some problems with freezing tasks on SMP that smell like this too.
> 
> If we are going to ignore uninterruptible tasks, I'd propose to set PF_FREEZE
> and TIF_SIGPENDING for them without counting them as "todo" in

You can't just ignore uninterruptible tasks, sorry.

OTOH, if you want working refrigerator, Nigel has one ;-). We were
talking about merging it to mainline few times already...
								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-05 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-05  9:20 freeze_processes questions Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-05  9:27 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-05  9:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-05 18:02     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-05 18:17       ` Alan Stern
2005-04-05 18:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-05 20:37       ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-05 22:46         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-05 22:57           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-04-05 23:10             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-06  6:41               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-06 19:06               ` Alan Stern
2005-04-06 20:52                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-06 21:03                   ` Alan Stern
2005-04-06 21:26                     ` David Brownell
2005-04-06 21:17                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-06 21:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-06 22:07                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-06 22:41                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 14:41                           ` Alan Stern
2005-04-07 17:17                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 14:43                         ` Alan Stern
2005-04-07 17:26                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07  9:11                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-07 12:29                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 12:47                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-07 14:36                           ` Alan Stern
2005-04-07 18:03                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 20:00                               ` Alan Stern
2005-04-07 20:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 22:09                                   ` Alan Stern
2005-04-08  6:20                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08  9:13                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 21:03                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-08  6:23                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08 11:23                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-11 23:59                                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-27  9:30                                       ` Li Shaohua
2005-04-27  9:53                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-28  4:48                                           ` Li Shaohua
2005-04-28  5:05                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-28  5:21                                               ` Li Shaohua
2005-04-28  5:49                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-28  6:01                                                   ` Li Shaohua
2005-04-28  6:21                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-28  8:15                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-28  8:14                                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-28 15:19                                               ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-04-28 18:47                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08  7:20                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-06 21:34               ` David Brownell
2005-04-06 22:03                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-06 22:20                   ` David Brownell
2005-04-07  9:09                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08  6:23               ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08  7:18                 ` Nigel Cunningham

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