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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Simon Derr <simon.derr@bull.net>
Cc: Yura Pakhuchiy <pakhuchiy@iptel.by>,
	Patrice Martinez <patrice.martinez@ext.bull.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /dev/random problem on 2.6.12-rc1
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:12:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050407211257.GK25554@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504071727080.5654@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 05:36:59PM +0200, Simon Derr wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Yura Pakhuchiy wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 14:40 +0200, Patrice Martinez wrote:
> > > When  using a machine with a  2612-rc 1kernel, I encounter problems
> > > reading /dev/random:
> > >  it simply nevers returns anything, and the process is blocked in the
> > > read...
> > > The easiest way to see it is to type:
> > >  od < /dev/random
> > >
> > > Any idea?
> >
> > Because, /dev/random use user input, mouse movements and other things to
> > generate next random number. Use /dev/urandom if you want version that
> > will never block your machine.
> >
> > Read "man 4 random" for details.
> >
> Something changed since previous versions of the kernel, I guess.
> Running `find /usr | wc' on a ssh session generates both network and disk
> activity, and you should not expect any other kind of input on a networked
> server.

FYI, network activity only generates entropy on a very small subset of
NICs, and probably not the one you're using. This is good, as network
activity is assumed passively observable/timable.

> Anyway, still zero bytes coming from /dev/random, for the few minutes I
> waited.

Are you and Patrice both experiencing this on the same machine? What
was the last kernel that was known to work for you? Do you see the
contents of /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail change over time?
Are there any other entropy consumers on your machine?

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-07 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-07 12:40 /dev/random problem on 2.6.12-rc1 Patrice Martinez
2005-04-07 13:08 ` Yura Pakhuchiy
2005-04-07 13:14 ` Yura Pakhuchiy
2005-04-07 15:36   ` Simon Derr
2005-04-07 21:12     ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2005-04-08  6:56       ` Simon Derr
2005-04-08  7:55         ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-08 12:12           ` buggy ia64_fls() ? (was Re: /dev/random problem on 2.6.12-rc1) Simon Derr
2005-04-08 16:27             ` Matt Mackall

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