From: Jan Hudec <bulb@ucw.cz>
To: Marcin Dalecki <martin@dalecki.de>
Cc: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel SCM saga..
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:36:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050411063603.GA21708@vagabond> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de0dee2e0b49a66479c2c885c0ee50aa@dalecki.de>
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 04:56:06 +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote:
>
> On 2005-04-11, at 04:26, Miles Bader wrote:
>
> >Marcin Dalecki <martin@dalecki.de> writes:
> >>Better don't waste your time with looking at Arch. Stick with patches
> >>you maintain by hand combined with some scripts containing a list of
> >>apply commands and you should be still more productive then when using
> >>Arch.
> >
> >Arch has its problems, but please lay off the uninformed flamebait (the
> >"issues" you complain about are so utterly minor as to be laughable).
>
> I wish you a lot of laughter after replying to an already 3 days old
> message,
> which was my final on Arch.
Marcin Dalecki <martin@dalecki.de> complained:
> Arch isn't a sound example of software design. Quite contrary to the
> random notes posted by it's author the following issues did strike me
> the time I did evaluate it:
> [...]
I didn't comment on this first time, but I see I should have. *NONE* of
the issues you complained about were issues of *DESIGN*. They were all
issues of *ENGINEERING*. *ENGINEERING* issues can be fixed. One of the
issues does not even exist any longer (the diff/patch one -- it now
checks they are the right ones -- and in all other respects it is
*exactly* the same as depending on a library)
But what really matters here is the concept. Arch has a simple concept,
that works well. Others have different concepts, that work well or
almost well too (Darcs, Monotone).
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Jan 'Bulb' Hudec <bulb@ucw.cz>
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2005-04-06 15:42 Kernel SCM saga Linus Torvalds
2005-04-06 16:00 ` Greg KH
2005-04-07 16:40 ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-08 0:53 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-04-06 16:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-06 19:07 ` Jon Smirl
2005-04-06 19:24 ` Matan Peled
2005-04-06 19:49 ` Jon Smirl
2005-04-06 20:34 ` Hua Zhong
2005-04-07 1:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-04-06 19:39 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2005-04-07 1:40 ` Martin Pool
2005-04-07 1:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-07 2:26 ` Martin Pool
2005-04-07 2:32 ` David Lang
2005-04-07 5:38 ` Martin Pool
2005-04-07 23:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 5:56 ` Martin Pool
2005-04-08 6:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 8:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-08 23:38 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-09 2:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-09 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 2:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-09 2:32 ` David Lang
2005-04-09 3:08 ` Brian Gerst
2005-04-09 3:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-09 5:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 22:55 ` David S. Miller
2005-04-09 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 0:14 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-10 1:56 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 12:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-10 17:38 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 17:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-10 17:56 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 0:22 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 11:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-10 17:55 ` Matthias Andree
2005-04-09 16:33 ` Roman Zippel
2005-04-09 23:31 ` Tupshin Harper
2005-04-10 17:24 ` Code snippet to reconstruct ancestry graph from bk repo Paul P Komkoff Jr
2005-04-10 18:19 ` Roman Zippel
2005-04-08 16:46 ` Kernel SCM saga Catalin Marinas
2005-04-07 8:14 ` Magnus Damm
2005-04-07 7:53 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-04-07 3:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-07 15:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-07 6:36 ` bert hubert
2005-04-06 23:22 ` Jon Masters
2005-04-07 6:51 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-04-07 7:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-07 15:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-07 17:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-07 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-07 17:47 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-07 18:06 ` Magnus Damm
2005-04-07 18:36 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-08 3:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-07 19:56 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-04-07 23:21 ` Dave Airlie
2005-04-07 7:18 ` David Woodhouse
2005-04-07 8:50 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-07 9:20 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-04-07 9:46 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-07 11:17 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-04-07 10:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-04-07 9:25 ` David Woodhouse
2005-04-07 9:49 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-07 9:55 ` Russell King
2005-04-07 10:11 ` David Woodhouse
2005-04-07 9:40 ` David Vrabel
2005-04-07 9:24 ` Sergei Organov
2005-04-07 10:30 ` Matthias Andree
2005-04-07 10:54 ` Andrew Walrond
2005-04-09 16:17 ` David Roundy
2005-04-10 9:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-04-10 13:51 ` David Roundy
2005-04-07 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-07 17:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-07 17:10 ` Al Viro
2005-04-07 17:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-07 18:04 ` Jörn Engel
2005-04-07 18:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-07 20:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-08 3:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-07 17:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-04-07 17:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-07 18:13 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-04-07 18:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-10 22:33 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2005-04-11 0:00 ` Christian Parpart
2005-04-08 17:24 ` Jon Masters
2005-04-08 22:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-08 22:52 ` Roman Zippel
2005-04-08 23:46 ` Tupshin Harper
2005-04-09 1:00 ` Roman Zippel
2005-04-09 1:23 ` Tupshin Harper
2005-04-09 16:52 ` Eric D. Mudama
2005-04-09 17:40 ` Roman Zippel
2005-04-09 18:56 ` Ray Lee
2005-04-07 7:44 ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-08 6:14 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-04-09 1:01 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-09 8:32 ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-11 2:26 ` Miles Bader
2005-04-11 2:56 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-11 6:36 ` Jan Hudec [this message]
2005-04-07 10:56 ` Andrew Walrond
2005-04-08 0:57 ` Ian Wienand
2005-04-08 4:13 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-08 4:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 5:04 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-08 5:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-08 7:05 ` Rogan Dawes
2005-04-08 7:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-04-08 7:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-08 7:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-08 12:02 ` Matthias Andree
2005-04-08 12:21 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-08 14:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 16:15 ` Matthias-Christian Ott
2005-04-08 17:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 17:15 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-08 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 18:05 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-08 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 19:16 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-08 19:38 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-08 19:48 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-08 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 20:11 ` Uncached stat performace [ Was: Re: Kernel SCM saga.. ] Ragnar Kjørstad
2005-04-08 20:14 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-08 20:50 ` Kernel SCM saga Luck, Tony
2005-04-08 21:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 17:14 ` Roman Zippel
2005-04-09 7:20 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-04-09 15:15 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-08 17:25 ` Matthias-Christian Ott
2005-04-08 18:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 18:28 ` Jon Smirl
2005-04-08 18:58 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-09 1:11 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-09 1:50 ` David Lang
2005-04-09 22:12 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-08 19:16 ` Matthias-Christian Ott
2005-04-08 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 19:44 ` Matthias-Christian Ott
2005-04-09 1:09 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-08 17:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-08 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-08 18:56 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-09 7:37 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-04-09 7:47 ` Neil Brown
2005-04-09 8:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-04-09 9:34 ` Neil Brown
2005-04-09 15:40 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-09 16:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 17:15 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-09 17:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-09 1:04 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-09 15:42 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-09 18:45 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-09 1:00 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-09 1:09 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-09 1:21 ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-04-08 7:17 ` ross
2005-04-08 15:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 2:53 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-09 7:08 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-04-09 18:06 ` [PATCH] " Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 1:01 ` Phillip Lougher
2005-04-10 1:42 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 1:57 ` Phillip Lougher
2005-04-09 15:50 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-09 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 17:08 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 3:41 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 8:39 ` David Lang
2005-04-10 9:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-04-10 16:46 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-04-10 17:50 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-12 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08 7:34 ` Marcel Lanz
2005-04-08 9:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-04-08 8:38 ` Matt Johnston
2005-04-12 7:14 ` Kernel SCM saga.. (bk license?) Kedar Sovani
2005-04-12 9:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2005-04-13 4:04 ` Ricky Beam
2005-04-08 11:42 ` Kernel SCM saga Catalin Marinas
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2005-04-06 22:39 ` Jeff Garzik
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