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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>" 
	<7eggert@gmx.de>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC] FUSE permission modell (Was: fuse review bits)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:45:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050412144529.GE10995@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DLHWZ-0001Bg-SU@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>

Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org> wrote:
> Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> wrote:
> > Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> 
> >>   4) Access should not be further restricted for the owner of the
> >>      mount, even if permission bits, uid or gid would suggest
> >>      otherwise
> > 
> > Why?  Surely you want to prevent writing to files which don't have the
> > writable bit set?  A filesystem may also create append-only files -
> > and all users including the mount owner should be bound by that.
> 
> That will depend on the situation. If the user is mounting a tgz owned
> by himself, FUSE should default to being a convenient hex-editor.

If the user wants to edit a read-only file in a tgz owned by himself,
why can he not _chmod_ the file and _then_ edit it?

That said, I would _usually_ prefer that when I enter a tgz, that I
see all component files having the same uid/gid/permissions as the tgz
file itself - the same as I'd see if I entered a zip file.

-- Jamie

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>"
	<7eggert@gmx.de>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC] FUSE permission modell (Was: fuse review bits)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:45:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050412144529.GE10995@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DLHWZ-0001Bg-SU@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>

Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org> wrote:
> Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> wrote:
> > Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> 
> >>   4) Access should not be further restricted for the owner of the
> >>      mount, even if permission bits, uid or gid would suggest
> >>      otherwise
> > 
> > Why?  Surely you want to prevent writing to files which don't have the
> > writable bit set?  A filesystem may also create append-only files -
> > and all users including the mount owner should be bound by that.
> 
> That will depend on the situation. If the user is mounting a tgz owned
> by himself, FUSE should default to being a convenient hex-editor.

If the user wants to edit a read-only file in a tgz owned by himself,
why can he not _chmod_ the file and _then_ edit it?

That said, I would _usually_ prefer that when I enter a tgz, that I
see all component files having the same uid/gid/permissions as the tgz
file itself - the same as I'd see if I entered a zip file.

-- Jamie
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-12 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]                   ` <3SbPN-3T4-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-04-12  9:17                     ` [RFC] FUSE permission modell (Was: fuse review bits) Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12  9:17                       ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12 14:45                       ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2005-04-12 14:45                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 15:19                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:04                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:31                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:44                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:55                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 17:13                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 19:08                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 12:56                                       ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-13 15:08                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 16:13                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 16:47                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 16:57                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 15:58                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 20:19                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-04-12 21:52                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13  9:14                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 12:59                               ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-13 17:02                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 17:29                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 18:36                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 19:16                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                   ` <3S9b7-1yl-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                     ` <3S9uB-1Lj-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]                         ` <3ScC1-4zl-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                           ` <3ScLO-4GA-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]                               ` <3SeXf-6BK-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                                 ` <E1DLKOd-0001Nd-MG@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12 14:37                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 19:51                                     ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found]                   ` <3UmnD-6Fy-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-04-17 23:52                     ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-19 11:57                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-19 15:01                         ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-19 15:21                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-19 15:26                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-19 16:02                             ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-19 19:29                               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-20  3:59                                 ` Mike Waychison
2005-04-20  7:09                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
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2005-04-20 19:52                       ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-03-20 23:12 fuse is cool and robust Andrew Morton
     [not found] ` <20050321073519.GA13879@outpost.ds9a.nl>
     [not found]   ` <20050323083347.GA1807@infradead.org>
     [not found]     ` <E1DE2D1-0005Ie-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
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     [not found]         ` <E1DEmYC-0008Qg-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
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2005-04-11 14:43                     ` [RFC] FUSE permission modell (Was: fuse review bits) Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 15:36                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 15:56                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 18:17                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 19:10                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 19:22                               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 19:56                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 21:41                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12  6:10                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 14:33                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 15:13                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:03                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 15:16                                         ` Frank Sorenson
2005-04-12 15:56                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-17 17:45                                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-17 18:06                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 20:36                                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-04-11 22:13                                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-12  6:27                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 14:32                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 14:59                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:13                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:37                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:45                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:52                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 17:14                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 19:10                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:42                                             ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-11 19:43                               ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2005-04-12  8:06                           ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-11 18:22                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-11 18:27                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 19:38                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-17 18:01                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-17 18:45                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-17 19:57                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen

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