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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: bulb@ucw.cz, 7eggert@gmx.de, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC] FUSE permission modell (Was: fuse review bits)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050413165746.GI12825@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DLl1x-0004uT-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>

Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > Look up the rather large linux-kernel & linux-fsdevel thread "silent
> > semantic changes with reiser4" and it's followup threads, from last
> > year.
> 
> Wow, it's 700+ messages.  I got through the first 40, and already feel
> dizzy :)

It's easier if you skip the ones by Hans and their immediate followups :)

(Nothing personal, it's that Hans is mostly justifying reiser4's
behaviour, and the posts you really need to read aren't about reiser4).

> > It's already been tried.  You will also find sensible ideas on what
> > semantics it should have to do it properly.
> 
> OK, I understand the "slash -> directory, no-slash -> regular file"
> semantics.
> 
> How do you envision implementing this for "mount directory over file"?

Somewhere deep in that thread is a discussion between Al Viro and
Linus on it.

> A new mount flag indicating that it's only to be followed down if
> there's a slash after the mountpoint?

The new flag would indicate more than that: These mounts should be
detachable in the sense that deleting the file is possible, and
perhaps renamable/linkable too.  That's the stuff Al Viro discusses in
some detail in the big thread.

Ideally we'd like automounting, a bit like the Hurd's translators.
Attached to files (using an xattr or something, and executed with the
uid/gid of the file owner), and also per-user "pattern->action"
options for matching files with a certain type (e.g. tgz/zip/deb/rpm/xml).

But that can be added much later, as it's an orthogonal feature.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-13 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2005-04-12  9:17                     ` [RFC] FUSE permission modell (Was: fuse review bits) Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12  9:17                       ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12 14:45                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 14:45                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 15:19                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:04                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:31                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:44                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:55                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 17:13                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 19:08                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 12:56                                       ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-13 15:08                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 16:13                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 16:47                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 16:57                                               ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2005-04-13 15:58                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 20:19                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-04-12 21:52                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13  9:14                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 12:59                               ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-13 17:02                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 17:29                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 18:36                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 19:16                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
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     [not found]                                 ` <E1DLKOd-0001Nd-MG@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12 14:37                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 19:51                                     ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found]                   ` <3UmnD-6Fy-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-04-17 23:52                     ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-19 11:57                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-19 15:01                         ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-19 15:21                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-19 15:26                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-19 16:02                             ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-19 19:29                               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-20  3:59                                 ` Mike Waychison
2005-04-20  7:09                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
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2005-04-20 19:52                       ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-03-20 23:12 fuse is cool and robust Andrew Morton
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2005-04-11 14:43                     ` [RFC] FUSE permission modell (Was: fuse review bits) Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 15:36                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 15:56                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 18:17                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 19:10                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 19:22                               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 19:56                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 21:41                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12  6:10                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 14:33                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 15:13                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:03                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 15:16                                         ` Frank Sorenson
2005-04-12 15:56                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-17 17:45                                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-17 18:06                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 20:36                                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-04-11 22:13                                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-12  6:27                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 14:32                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 14:59                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:13                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:37                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:45                                               ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:52                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 17:14                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 19:10                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:42                                             ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-11 19:43                               ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2005-04-12  8:06                           ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-11 18:22                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-11 18:27                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 19:38                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-17 18:01                       ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-17 18:45                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-17 19:57                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen

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