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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Index/hash order
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:15:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050413201523.GC27088@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <425D7C0F.2050109@zytor.com>


* H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:

> >that's what i loosely meant under 'manageability problems'.
> >
> >I mentioned one solution earlier: to make the repository object an 
> >immutable file (the +i flag on the inode) - it really wants to be 
> >immutable after all. That would solve a whole range of 'accidental 
> >corruption' issues.
> >
> 
> I think abusing the immutable bit quickly will decend into the same 
> rathole which makes u-w often useless.  u-w will actually be preserved 
> by more tools -- simply because they know about it -- than +i.

well, the 'owned by another user' solution is valid though, and doesnt 
have this particular problem. (We've got a secure multiuser OS, so can 
as well use it to protect the DB against corruption.)

> Either which way, it feels to me that this idea has already been ruled 
> out, so it's probably pointless to keep debating just exactly what 
> we're not actually going to do.

(even if it sounds stupid, i keep discussing decisions that are done for 
reasons i cannot fully agree with (yet), even if i happen to agree with 
the net decision. It's all technological arguments, so it's not like 
there's anything fuzzy about any of these issues.)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-13 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]             ` <425D4E1D.4040108@zytor.com>
     [not found]               ` <20050413165310.GA22428@elte.hu>
     [not found]                 ` <425D4FB1.9040207@zytor.com>
     [not found]                   ` <20050413171052.GA22711@elte.hu>
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504131027210.4501@ppc970.osdl.org>
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     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504131144160.4501@ppc970.osdl.org>
2005-04-13 20:02                           ` Index/hash order Ingo Molnar
2005-04-13 20:07                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-13 20:15                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-04-13 20:18                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-13 20:21                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-13 20:26                                     ` Updated base64 patches H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-13 21:04                                 ` Index/hash order Linus Torvalds
2005-04-20  7:40                                   ` enforcing DB immutability Ingo Molnar
2005-04-20  7:49                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-20  7:53                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-20  8:58                                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-20 14:57                                       ` Nick Craig-Wood
2005-04-27  8:15                                       ` Wout
2005-04-13 20:15                               ` Index/hash order Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 20:28                         ` Baruch Even
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504131008500.4501@ppc970.osdl.org>
2005-04-13 21:40                     ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-13 22:11                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 22:48                         ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-14  7:04                         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-14 10:50                           ` cache-cold repository performance Ingo Molnar

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