From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: David Wagner <daw-usenet@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fortuna
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:13:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050418191316.GL21897@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3poiv$vrn$2@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu>
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On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 01:08:47AM +0000, David Wagner wrote:
> >First, a reminder that the design goal of /dev/random proper is
> >information-theoretic security. That is, it should be secure against
> >an attacker with infinite computational power.
>
> I am skeptical.
> I have never seen any convincing evidence for this claim,
> and I suspect that there are cases in which /dev/random fails
> to achieve this standard.
>
> And it seems I am not the only one. See, e.g., Section 5.3 of:
> http://eprint.iacr.org/2005/029
Unfortunately, this paper's analysis of /dev/random is so shallow that
they don't even know what hash it's using. Almost all of section 5.3
is wrong (and was when I read it initially).
--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-18 19:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-14 14:15 Fortuna linux
2005-04-14 13:33 ` Fortuna Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-15 1:34 ` Fortuna linux
2005-04-15 14:42 ` Fortuna Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-15 15:38 ` Fortuna linux
2005-04-15 18:23 ` Fortuna Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-15 16:22 ` Fortuna Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-04-15 16:50 ` Fortuna linux
2005-04-15 17:04 ` Fortuna Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-04-16 10:05 ` Fortuna linux
2005-04-16 15:46 ` Fortuna Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-04-16 17:16 ` Fortuna linux
2005-04-16 19:22 ` Fortuna Matt Mackall
2005-04-16 19:00 ` Fortuna Matt Mackall
2005-04-17 0:19 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-16 1:28 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-15 19:34 ` Fortuna Matt Mackall
2005-04-16 1:25 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-19 19:27 ` Fortuna Patrick J. LoPresti
2005-04-14 14:52 ` Fortuna Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-04-15 0:52 ` Fortuna linux
2005-04-16 1:19 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-16 1:08 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-18 19:13 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2005-04-18 21:40 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-19 4:01 ` Fortuna Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-19 4:31 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-20 7:06 ` Fortuna Theodore Ts'o
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-17 9:21 Fortuna linux
2005-04-16 11:44 Fortuna linux
2005-04-16 11:10 Fortuna linux
2005-04-16 15:06 ` Fortuna Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-04-16 16:30 ` Fortuna linux
2005-04-17 0:37 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-16 23:40 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-17 0:36 ` Fortuna David Wagner
2005-04-13 23:43 Fortuna Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-04-14 0:09 ` Fortuna Matt Mackall
2005-04-14 0:26 ` Fortuna Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-04-14 0:44 ` Fortuna Matt Mackall
2005-04-16 1:02 ` Fortuna David Wagner
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