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From: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Amit Gud <gud@eth.net>, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	cramerj@intel.com,
	USB development list <linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add pci shutdown ability
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:12:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050426161259.GC2612@colo.lackof.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1114489812.7111.42.camel@gaston>

On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:30:12PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> Additionally, some machines won't properly park/flush the disk, it's
> necessary to send the proper suspend commands to IDE hard disks prior to
> shutting down or we risk data loss.

That sounds like the disk is caching write data.

SCSI has a "Write Cache Enable" bit in the "caching mode page".
See "scsiinfo -c" output.

10 years ago I measured/compared performance of disabling WCE
(plus queue depth of 8) and enabling WCE (queue depth 1).
It's a wash for the workloads I was testing. I was told "stupid OSs"
that didn't know about tagged queueing needed WCE for benchmarks.
HP cared for exactly the same reasons: Bus Resets or Disk power failure
would cause data loss with WCE enabled.

Disabling WCE on current OSs would solve the above problem
IFF IDE/SATA also supports "cache mode" page.

grant

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-26 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0504251128070.5751-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
     [not found] ` <SVLXCHCON1syWVLEFN00000099e@SVLXCHCON1.enterprise.veritas.com>
     [not found]   ` <20050425182951.GA23209@kroah.com>
     [not found]     ` <20050425185113.GC23209@kroah.com>
2005-04-25 19:06       ` [PATCH] PCI: Add pci shutdown ability Greg KH
2005-04-25 19:23         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-25 20:07           ` Greg KH
2005-04-25 20:11           ` Adam Belay
2005-04-25 20:11             ` Adam Belay
2005-04-25 19:45         ` Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-25 20:12           ` Greg KH
2005-04-26  3:59             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-25 20:14           ` Alan Stern
2005-04-25 20:52             ` Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-25 21:12               ` Alan Stern
2005-04-26 15:49                 ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-26 16:04                   ` Alan Stern
2005-04-26 16:37                     ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-26 17:14                       ` Alan Stern
2005-04-26 17:41                         ` Grant Grundler
2005-05-11  5:33                 ` Vivek Goyal
2005-05-11 14:38                   ` Alan Stern
2005-04-25 21:58             ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-25 22:13               ` Dave Jones
2005-04-25 23:23                 ` Adam Belay
2005-04-26  4:32                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-26  6:23                     ` Adam Belay
2005-04-26  6:23                       ` Adam Belay
2005-04-26  7:14                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-26  7:14                         ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-26  9:16                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26  9:16                         ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26  9:41                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26  3:52                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-26 15:14                   ` Alan Stern
2005-04-26  9:39                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26 17:50                   ` Dave Jones
2005-04-26 20:23                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26  3:45               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-26 15:11               ` Alan Stern
2005-04-26 16:01                 ` Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-26 15:41             ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-26 16:07               ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-04-26 16:19                 ` Grant Grundler
2005-04-26 17:12                   ` Alan Stern
2005-04-26 17:19                     ` Lee Revell
2005-04-25 20:08         ` Adam Belay
2005-04-25 20:08           ` Adam Belay
2005-04-25 20:19           ` Greg KH
2005-04-25 20:19             ` Greg KH
2005-04-25 20:24             ` Adam Belay
2005-04-25 20:24               ` Adam Belay
2005-04-25 20:42         ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-25 20:55           ` Adam Belay
2005-04-25 21:06             ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26  4:30               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-26 16:12                 ` Grant Grundler [this message]
2005-04-26 13:44               ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2005-04-26 21:15                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-25 21:00           ` Greg KH
2005-04-25 21:13             ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-26  3:41             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-26 10:11               ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-25 21:13           ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2005-04-26  3:39           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-26  6:33             ` Adam Belay
2005-04-26  6:44               ` Greg KH
2005-05-04  7:02 [PATCH] PCI: fix up word-aligned 16-bit PCI config access through sysfs Greg KH
2005-05-04  7:02 ` [PATCH] PCI: Add pci shutdown ability Greg KH

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