From: Andrew Clausen <clausen@gnu.org>
To: David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>
Cc: Jonathan Briggs <jbriggs@esoft.com>,
"Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando" <gorlando@futuretg.com>,
Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>,
Reiserfs mail-list <Reiserfs-List@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: Reiser4 repackers
Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 11:05:25 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050508010525.GL8179@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <427D66FA.8050803@slaphack.com>
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 08:10:18PM -0500, David Masover wrote:
> > The blocklist is only needed to find the blocks in the nested file,
> > which is huge. (I don't know anything about reiser packing, but
> > things like tail-merging aren't a serious problem.)
>
> Yet, it's still a problem. You want a standardized way to map files to
> underlying blocks, and before Reiser4, I'd say this was easy. But now,
> who knows what the FS does to bastardize the file on the way down?
> Crypto/compression? Tail-packing? Stenography? The possibilities are
> endless...
Can't you disable these things for the special nested file? You only
need the block list for one file!
> > Small users are happy to leave their computer overnight.
>
> Maybe you are, but newbies aren't. Maybe you got it wrong? Maybe you
> got all your stuff moved around properly, but didn't leave room for a
> swap partition? Looks like you have to start over!
Ideally, you'd have a tool where you plan the entire job first
(including creating the new swap partition), and then execute it in one
hit.
> Unless the newbies are following a VERY specific recipie or VERY good
> tools, this process could easily take a few weeks, instead of a few
> hours with the repacker. And that repacker looks easier to implement
> than a noob-proof UI. Of course, people who know tell me I'm naive on
> both counts...
Clearly, a repacker would be better for users.
> The current situation is not impossible, unless you want real users (not
> fanboys) to choose Reiser4 over ANYTHING else. Why would I choose
> Reiser4+convertfs over ReiserFS 3 + resize_reiserfs? Or even
> ntfs+ntfsresize?
Why do newbies ever choose reiserfs? Crypto?
Cheers,
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-08 1:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-05 11:49 Reiser4 support on parted Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2005-05-05 15:11 ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-05 17:41 ` Jander
2005-05-05 21:01 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2005-05-05 22:10 ` David Masover
2005-05-05 22:12 ` Andrew Clausen
2005-05-05 23:05 ` David Masover
2005-05-06 0:02 ` Andrew Clausen
2005-05-06 2:29 ` David Masover
2005-05-06 6:19 ` Alex Zarochentsev
2005-05-05 23:31 ` Reiser4 repackers Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-06 2:47 ` David Masover
2005-05-06 3:59 ` Andrew Clausen
2005-05-07 4:41 ` David Masover
2005-05-07 10:25 ` Andrew Clausen
2005-05-08 1:10 ` David Masover
2005-05-08 1:05 ` Andrew Clausen [this message]
2005-05-08 13:37 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2005-05-06 5:06 ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-06 9:31 ` Reiser4 support on parted Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2005-05-06 12:26 ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-06 19:19 ` Vitaly Fertman
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