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From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
To: Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>
Cc: SELinux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: ls -Z on non-SE machine
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:27:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050515102704.GA16326@lkcl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200505151921.23171.russell@coker.com.au>

how about just silently ignoring the -Z option if selinux is
detected to not be enabled?

or placing dummy information in its place which any selinux-aware
shell scripts can pick up on.

On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 07:21:20PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> Currently "ls -Z" refuses to operate if it detects that SE Linux is not 
> enabled on the machine.
> 
> This makes no sense to me.  Files that are labelled when running SE Linux keep 
> their labels (and the values of such labels may still be read) when not 
> running SE Linux.  It seems quite reasonable to me that an administrator may 
> want to take a disk out of a SE Linux machine and mount it on a non-SE 
> machine for debugging problems or forensics.  The current behavior of ls 
> works against such operations.
> 
> I believe that the best thing to do is to have ls not be linked against 
> libselinux and instead just call the XATTR api for reading the file contexts.  
> Ideally I think that such functionality should be enabled unconditionally so 
> that any administrator who receives a disk that was used on a SE Linux system 
> will have the ability to conveniently view all the data on it.
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-15 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-15  9:21 ls -Z on non-SE machine Russell Coker
2005-05-15 10:27 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [this message]
2005-05-15 10:56   ` Ivan Gyurdiev
2005-05-15 11:16     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-05-15 11:11   ` Russell Coker
2005-05-15 16:37     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-05-16 11:31 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-05-16 11:48   ` Russell Coker
2005-05-16 12:36     ` Stephen Smalley

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