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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@gmail.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Machine Freezes while Running Crossover Office
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:07:26 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200506011007.26650.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1117574407.9231.3.camel@localhost>

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 07:20 am, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 20:41 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Now, assuming you can confirm that doing:
> >
> >   echo 5 > /proc/sys/kernel/INTERACTIVE_DELTA
>
> The hang goes away with a magic number of 6 (although it does not seem
> as smooth as with turning off interactivity completely). With 5, I still
> get the hang but it is noticeable shorter than before. Number 4 gives me
> the same old hang.
>
> Ingo, are there other patches you wanted me to try out?

Generally when I was playing with it I found that if something was critically 
dependant on the _value_ of a tunable rather than the algorithm design, it 
would simply take a different piece of hardware or test case to induce the 
problem, and the algorithm would have to be changed instead of tweaking the 
parameters. This will require a some thought as to the design and an 
algorithm change for the long term rather than tweaking a value :-|

None of this behaviour existed when the interactivity code went in during 2.5 
and I could never have anticipated this pipe design change coming and 
affecting it in this way.

Con

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-01  2:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-28 14:46 [PROBLEM] Machine Freezes while Running Crossover Office Pekka Enberg
2005-05-29 18:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-29 18:20   ` Pekka Enberg
2005-05-29 18:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-29 20:49       ` Pekka Enberg
2005-05-29 22:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-29 23:06           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-30 15:23           ` Pekka Enberg
2005-05-30 17:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-30 18:07               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-30 18:22                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-30 18:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-30 18:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-30 19:12                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-31 13:54                   ` Greg Stark
2005-05-31  6:15               ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-05-31  6:35               ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-05-31  6:54                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-31 16:53                   ` Pekka Enberg
2005-05-31 17:24                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-31 18:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-31 21:20                         ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-01  0:07                           ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2005-06-01  2:31                             ` David Lang
2005-06-01  7:35                 ` [patch] TASK_NONINTERACTIVE (was: Machine Freezes while Running Crossover Office) Ingo Molnar
2005-06-01  8:42                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-01  8:55                   ` [patch] " Con Kolivas
2005-06-01 10:26                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-01 18:06                   ` [patch] " Gene Heskett
2005-06-03  8:34                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-03 10:57                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-07 13:14                       ` Pekka Enberg
2005-10-17 15:10                   ` [patch] " Pekka Enberg
2005-10-17 15:15                     ` Ingo Molnar

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