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From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Park Lee <parklee_sel@yahoo.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	SELinux <SELinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: Question about integration of IPsec with SELinux?
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:25:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050612152505.GD31033@lkcl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200506121234.j5CCYt4G009234@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:34:54AM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

> OpenSSH and OpenSSL *both* suffer from the very real *practical* problem
> that their connections terminate in userspace, while IPsec terminates
> connections in the kernel.  


 ah - there _is_ a way round that: to use something like tun/tap.

 there's a VPN project i forget the name of... tinc, yes, it's called
 tinc.

 it's an entirely userspace VPN.

 it would, imo, be perfectly reasonable to add into tun/tap a means to
 pass selinux avc queries etc. over that.

 ... heck - why not? :)

 l.

 p.s. i _hate_ the concept of doing this kind of high-level
 work in userspace.  i _wish_ linus wasn't so damn stupidly pig-headed
 about monolithic kernels.  all this stuff would be _so_ much less
 hassle and so much a non-issue on top of an L4 microkernel or in the
 GNU/Hurd.


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-12 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-11 10:38 Question about integration of IPsec with SELinux? Park Lee
2005-06-11 17:27 ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-11 18:45   ` Park Lee
2005-06-11 19:18     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-11 19:49       ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-12  2:16         ` Park Lee
2005-06-12 11:44           ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-12 12:39             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-12 15:20               ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-12 19:18                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-12 20:25                   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-12 20:30                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-12 20:52                     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-12 21:45                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-13 13:00                     ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-13 21:16                       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-14 13:21                         ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-14 14:31                           ` Trent Jaeger
2005-06-15 22:04                             ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-12 23:32                   ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-13  0:21                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-13 10:01                     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-13 13:37                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-13 14:10                       ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-13 12:49                 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-13 21:17                   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-13 12:37             ` Stephen Smalley
2005-06-13 21:19               ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-12 12:34           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-12 15:25             ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [this message]
2005-06-12 16:16             ` Park Lee
2005-06-12 17:50           ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-12 16:34   ` Park Lee
2005-06-12 17:02   ` Park Lee
2005-06-12 17:46     ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found] <20050613213951.GB17617@lkcl.net>
2005-06-13 22:03 ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-13 22:44   ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-06-16 16:01   ` Brian T. Sniffen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-14 18:11 Park Lee
2005-06-14 21:23 ` Casey Schaufler
2005-06-15  1:20   ` Park Lee
2005-06-15  3:00     ` Casey Schaufler

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