From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Robert Love <rml@novell.com>
Cc: Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Al Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>,
John McCutchan <ttb@tentacle.dhs.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] inotify.
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:07:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200506171907.39940.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1118946334.3949.63.camel@betsy>
On Dunnersdag 16 Juni 2005 20:25, Robert Love wrote:
> +Q: Why a device node?
> +
> +A: The second biggest problem with dnotify is that the user
> +interface sucks ass. Signals are a terrible, terrible interface
> +for file notification. Or for anything, for that matter. The
> +idea solution, from all perspectives, is a file descriptor based
> +one that allows basic file I/O and poll/select. Obtaining the
> +fd and managing the watches could of been done either via a
> +device file or a family of new system calls. We decided to
> +implement a device file because adding three or four new system
> +calls that mirrored open, close, and ioctl seemed silly. A
> +character device makes sense from user-space and was easy to
> +implement inside of the kernel.
Sorry to bring up a topic that should have been settled a long time ago.
I found that the interface consisting of
- open a handle
- add a file descriptor with an event mask to handle
- remove a file/watch descriptor from handle
- wait on handle, get events
- close handle
in inotify is _very_ similar to how epoll is represented to user
space. Is there a good reason that epoll is a set of syscalls while
inotify is a character device, or is one of them simply wrong?
Arnd <><
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-17 17:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-15 17:18 [patch] inotify Robert Love
2005-06-16 17:52 ` Zach Brown
2005-06-16 18:25 ` Robert Love
2005-06-17 1:30 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-17 1:35 ` Robert Love
2005-06-17 15:15 ` [patch] inotify, improved Robert Love
2005-06-17 15:37 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-17 15:44 ` Robert Love
2005-06-17 16:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-17 16:29 ` Robert Love
2005-06-17 16:36 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-17 16:43 ` Chris Wright
2005-06-17 16:46 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2005-06-17 16:40 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-17 17:57 ` John McCutchan
2005-06-17 17:20 ` Zach Brown
2005-06-17 17:54 ` John McCutchan
2005-06-17 17:56 ` Zach Brown
2005-06-17 18:15 ` John McCutchan
2005-06-17 18:17 ` Zach Brown
2005-06-17 17:07 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2005-06-17 17:54 ` [patch] inotify Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-17 18:12 ` John McCutchan
2005-06-17 18:16 ` Robert Love
2005-06-17 18:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-17 18:38 ` Robert Love
2005-06-17 18:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-17 18:54 ` Robert Love
2005-06-17 17:56 ` John McCutchan
2005-06-17 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-17 21:40 ` Robert Love
2005-06-17 23:52 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 0:51 ` Neil Brown
2005-06-21 2:15 ` John McCutchan
2005-06-21 2:29 ` Neil Brown
2005-06-21 2:43 ` John McCutchan
2005-06-21 15:55 ` Robert Love
2005-07-14 0:25 ` Neil Brown
2005-07-14 4:11 ` John McCutchan
2005-06-18 0:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-06-18 0:57 ` Robert Love
2005-06-18 1:51 ` Chris Wedgwood
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-09 16:05 Robert Love
2005-05-09 17:43 ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-01-06 20:00 Robert Love
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