From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: mjt@nysv.org Markus =?unknown-8bit?q?T=F6rnqvist?= Subject: Re: reiser4 plugins Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:21:38 +0300 Message-ID: <20050627092138.GD11013@nysv.org> References: <42BB7B32.4010100@slaphack.com> <200506240334.j5O3YowB008100@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="j6zkAHxOZJkiczrA" Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506240334.j5O3YowB008100@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> List-Id: To: Horst von Brand Cc: David Masover , Alan Cox , Hans Reiser , Jeff Garzik , Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ReiserFS List --j6zkAHxOZJkiczrA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:34:50PM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: >David Masover wrote: >> I think Hans (or someone) decided that when hardware stops working, it's >> not the job of the FS to compensate, it's the job of lower layers, or >> better, the job of the admin to replace the disk and restore from >> backups. >Handling other people's data this way is just reckless irresponsibility. >Sure, you can get high performance if you just forego some of your basic >responsibilities. Your honest-to-bog opinion is that the FS vendor is responsible for the admin not taking backups or the hardware vendor shipping crap? *still trying to understand how that can be* --=20 mjt --j6zkAHxOZJkiczrA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCv8UiIqNMpVm8OhwRAnOTAJ45eYnRA5qu76wDikLbuoMMLgub+ACdH21T qmysNUGGUTyynfCoqnn6c/Y= =B/KR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --j6zkAHxOZJkiczrA-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261973AbVF0JV5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:21:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261974AbVF0JV5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:21:57 -0400 Received: from nysv.org ([213.157.66.145]:55990 "EHLO nysv.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261973AbVF0JVu (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:21:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:21:38 +0300 To: Horst von Brand Cc: David Masover , Alan Cox , Hans Reiser , Jeff Garzik , Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: reiser4 plugins Message-ID: <20050627092138.GD11013@nysv.org> References: <42BB7B32.4010100@slaphack.com> <200506240334.j5O3YowB008100@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="j6zkAHxOZJkiczrA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200506240334.j5O3YowB008100@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: mjt@nysv.org (Markus =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=20T=F6rnqvist?=) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --j6zkAHxOZJkiczrA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:34:50PM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: >David Masover wrote: >> I think Hans (or someone) decided that when hardware stops working, it's >> not the job of the FS to compensate, it's the job of lower layers, or >> better, the job of the admin to replace the disk and restore from >> backups. >Handling other people's data this way is just reckless irresponsibility. >Sure, you can get high performance if you just forego some of your basic >responsibilities. Your honest-to-bog opinion is that the FS vendor is responsible for the admin not taking backups or the hardware vendor shipping crap? *still trying to understand how that can be* --=20 mjt --j6zkAHxOZJkiczrA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCv8UiIqNMpVm8OhwRAnOTAJ45eYnRA5qu76wDikLbuoMMLgub+ACdH21T qmysNUGGUTyynfCoqnn6c/Y= =B/KR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --j6zkAHxOZJkiczrA--