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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Kristian Benoit <kbenoit@opersys.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, bhuey@lnxw.com,
	andrea@suse.de, tglx@linutronix.de, karim@opersys.com,
	pmarques@grupopie.com, bruce@andrew.cmu.edu,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ak@muc.de, sdietrich@mvista.com,
	dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	rpm@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: PREEMPT_RT and I-PIPE: the numbers, take 3
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:32:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050630103205.GA32508@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42C320C4.9000302@opersys.com>


* Kristian Benoit <kbenoit@opersys.com> wrote:

> This is the 3rd run of our tests.

i'm still having problems reproducing your numbers, even the 'plain' 
ones. I cannot even get the same ballpark figures, on 3 separate 
systems. To pick one number:

> "plain" run:
> 
> Measurements   |   Vanilla   |  preemp_rt     |
> ---------------+-------------+----------------+
> mmap           |     660us   | 2867us (+334%) |

i was unable to reproduce this level of lat_mmap degradation. I do 
indeed see a slowdown [*], but nowhere near the 4.3x slowdown measured 
here. I have tried the very lmbench version you used (2.0.4) on 3 
different systems (Athlon64 2GHz, Celeron 466MHz, Xeon 2.4GHz - the last 
one should be pretty similar to your 2.8GHz Xeon testbox) and neither 
showed this level of slowdown.

i couldnt figure out which precise options were used by your test, 
because i only found the summary lmbench page of one of the older tests 
- so i did my lat_mmap testing with various sizes: 10MB, 30MB, 70MB, 
150MB, 200MB, 500MB. (My best guess would be that since your target box 
has 512MB of RAM, lmbench will pick an mmap-file size of 144 MB. Or if 
it's the 256MB box, lmbench will pick roughly 70 MB. I covered those 
likely sizes too.) Neither size showed this level of slowdown.

so my tentative conclusion would be that the -RT kernel is still 
misconfigured somehow. Did you have HIGHMEM64 and HIGHPTE enabled 
perhaps? Those i suggested to be turned off in one of my first mails to 
you, it is something that will cause bad performance under PREEMPT_RT.  
(Highmem64 is unwarranted for an embedded test anyway - it's only needed 
to support more than 4 GB of RAM.) Could you send me the test 3 .config 
you used on the -RT kernel?

	Ingo

[*] fixed in -50-36 and later PREEMPT_RT kernels

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-30 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-29 22:29 PREEMPT_RT and I-PIPE: the numbers, take 3 Kristian Benoit
2005-06-29 22:57 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-29 23:03   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-29 23:33     ` Bill Huey
2005-06-29 23:54   ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-30  1:50     ` Bill Huey
2005-06-30  1:56       ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-30  2:14         ` Bill Huey
2005-06-30  2:09           ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-30  2:18             ` Bill Huey
2005-06-30  6:50               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-06-30 14:15               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-06-30 19:08                 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-30  2:01       ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-06-30  2:16         ` Bill Huey
2005-06-30  2:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-30 14:59       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-06-30 18:59         ` Bill Huey
2005-06-30  7:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 15:43       ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-30 16:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 16:48           ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-06-30 23:08           ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-29 23:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-30  5:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-30 10:32 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-06-30 16:55 ` Ingo Molnar

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