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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Nathan Scott <nathans@sgi.com>
Cc: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RT and XFS
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:47:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050713064739.GD12661@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050713002556.GA980@frodo>


* Nathan Scott <nathans@sgi.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 04:01:32PM -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> > 
> > Is there something so odd about the XFS locking, that it can't use the
> > rt_lock ?
> 
> Not that I know of - XFS does use the downgrade_write interface, whose 
> use isn't overly common in the rest of the kernel... maybe that has 
> caused some confusion, dunno.

downgrade_write() wasnt the main problem - the main problem was that for 
PREEMPT_RT i implemented 'strict' semaphores, which are not identical to 
vanilla kernel semaphores. The thing that seemed to impact XFS the most 
is the 'acquirer thread has to release the lock' rule of strict 
semaphores.  Both the XFS logging code and the XFS IO completion code 
seems to release locks in a different context from where the acquire 
happened. It's of course valid upstream behavior, but without these 
extra rules it's hard to do sane priority inheritance. (who do you boost 
if you dont really know who 'owns' the lock?) It might make sense to 
introduce some sort of sem_pass_to(new_owner) interface? For now i 
introduced a compat type, which lets those semaphores fall back to the 
vanilla implementation.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-13  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-12 23:01 RT and XFS Daniel Walker
2005-07-12 23:39 ` William Weston
2005-07-13  0:25 ` Nathan Scott
2005-07-13  0:41   ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-13  0:37     ` Nathan Scott
2005-07-13  6:47   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-07-13 16:45     ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-14  0:22       ` Nathan Scott
2005-07-14  3:50         ` Dave Chinner
2005-07-14  4:10           ` Daniel Walker
     [not found]             ` <20050714052347.GA18813@elte.hu>
2005-07-14 15:56               ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-14 16:08                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-18 12:10                   ` Esben Nielsen
2005-07-19  3:26                     ` Bill Huey
2005-07-19 12:34                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-19 13:27                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-19 13:50                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-14 16:08                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-15 10:23             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-07-15 16:16               ` Daniel Walker
2005-07-18 11:33                 ` Esben Nielsen
2005-07-19  3:31                 ` Bill Huey

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