From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261624AbVGORlt (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:41:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263323AbVGORlt (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:41:49 -0400 Received: from orion.netbank.com.br ([200.203.199.90]:21778 "EHLO orion.netbank.com.br") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261624AbVGORls convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:41:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:41:29 -0300 From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Egry =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor?= , Sam Ravnborg , Roman Zippel , Andrew Morton , Massimo Maiurana , Linux Kernel Mailing List , KernelFR Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/19] Kconfig I18N completion Message-ID: <20050715174129.GB26338@conectiva.com.br> Mail-Followup-To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Linus Torvalds , Egry =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor?= , Sam Ravnborg , Roman Zippel , Andrew Morton , Massimo Maiurana , Linux Kernel Mailing List , KernelFR References: <1121273456.2975.3.camel@spirit> <1121277818.2975.68.camel@spirit> <20050713201147.GA23746@mars.ravnborg.org> <1121280104.2975.84.camel@spirit> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Url: http://advogato.org/person/acme User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Em Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:02:20PM -0700, Linus Torvalds escreveu: > > > On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Egry Gábor wrote: > > > > Yes, the patch 19/19 contains the translation of configuration > > interfaces ([x|g|menu]config) and it is only 23 kb. The full version of > > unfinished hu.po is 2 MB and the fully translated italian it.po is 3,2 > > MB. I see Linus doesn't want the huge language files in kernel source. > > But what is Linus opinion about this little .po file? > > I don't want ANY of it in the kernel. Neither me. > Quite frankly, I'm of the opinion that _all_ of the i18n stuff should be > totally outside the kernel. I took the patch from Arnaldo only because I > was told that me taking that patch would allow external packages to do the > rest. Now I'm told that isn't true, which just makes me pissed off. > > _I_ think you should have a totally external package that knows how to > parse the Kconfig files. They have a well-known format that hasn't changed > in quite a while, and a nice parser. Yes, there will inevitably be new > entries that you don't have translations for, and you'll have to use the > English ones for those, but the fact is, that is true whether the i18n > stuff is included with the kernel or not. Having just kxgettext as I submitted I guess is enough, the translators just do make update-po-config and do the translations, put that somewhere for anyone who wants to use it. > And exactly _because_ it doesn't help to put the non-English translations > into the kernel, I think it's a mistake to even try. It's likely _easier_ > for all the different language groups if they can just work on their _own_ > project, and don't have to try to get their translations merged into the > standard kernel. Exactly. - Arnaldo