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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Mitchell Blank Jr <mitch@sfgoth.com>,
	dtor_core@ameritech.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:47:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050807184756.GA1024@openzaurus.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e47339105080506325d93f431@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

> > > > Could you tell me why you don't just fail the operation if malformed
> > > > input is supplied?
> > >
> > > Leading/trailing white space should be allowed. For example echo
> > > appends '\n' unless you know to use -n. It is easier to fix the kernel
> > > than to teach everyone to use -n.
> > 
> > Please, NO! echo -n is the right thing to do, and users will eventually learn.
> > We are not going to add such workarounds all over the kernel...
> 
> It is not a work around. These are text attributes meant for human
> use.  Humans have a hard time cleaning up things they can't see. And
> the failure mode for this is awful, your attribute won't set but
> everything on the screen looks fine.

Kernel is not a place to be user friendly. Or do you propose stripping whitespace
for open(), too? File called "foo.txt    " certainly *is* going to be confusing, but it should be allowed at kernel level.

Now... echo foo > /sys/var does not properly report errors. Thats bad, but it needs to
be fixed in bash.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-07 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-25  4:09 [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace Jon Smirl
2005-07-25  4:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-25 14:28   ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-25 14:48     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-25 16:30       ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26  0:00         ` Greg KH
2005-07-26  0:28           ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26  0:30             ` Greg KH
2005-07-26  0:56               ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26  1:54                 ` Greg KH
2005-07-26  3:15                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26  3:29                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-28  2:05                     ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28  3:46                       ` Greg KH
2005-07-28  3:59                         ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28  4:05                           ` Greg KH
2005-07-28  4:49                             ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28  5:49                               ` Greg KH
2005-07-28  7:04                                 ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-07-28 12:54                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 13:09                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2005-07-28 13:16                                     ` Paulo Marques
2005-07-28 18:09                                     ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-07-28 19:03                                     ` Greg KH
2005-07-28 19:57                                       ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 20:22                                         ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-07-28 20:27                                           ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-29 18:50                                             ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-06  0:42                                               ` Greg KH
2005-08-06  3:48                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-21 22:21                                             ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 21:10                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2005-07-28 21:12                                           ` Jon Smirl
2002-01-01  7:53                                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-05 13:32                                               ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-05 18:01                                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-05 18:14                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-05 18:20                                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-05 18:47                                                       ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-05 20:07                                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-05 20:33                                                           ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-06  9:39                                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-07 18:50                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-07 18:47                                                 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-08-07 20:17                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-07 21:06                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-05 22:31                                               ` David Weinehall
2005-07-28 21:17                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2005-07-28 12:52                                 ` Jon Smirl
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-30  6:04 [PATCH] driver core: add bus_find_device & driver_find_device functions Greg KH
2005-06-30  6:04 ` [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace Greg KH
2005-06-30  6:25   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-30  6:29     ` Greg KH
2005-06-24  5:12 [RFC] bind and unbind drivers from userspace through sysfs Greg KH
2005-06-24  5:14 ` [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace Greg KH
2005-06-24 15:57   ` Patrick Mochel
2005-06-25  3:27     ` Greg KH
2005-06-25  4:16       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-25  9:39         ` Michael Tokarev

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