From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" <okuji@enbug.org>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: GRUB 1.90 is released
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:42:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200508092042.18530.okuji@enbug.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68a264cc93143668fe23b0948c24d7b8@penguinppc.org>
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:43, Hollis Blanchard wrote:
> You mentioned you wanted to release something "in the beginning of
> August." There was no rush this weekend, and I think it would have been
> polite to give people time to fix the PPC build before releasing.
I'm sorry, but I must insist my own idea about this point.
The planning has been written in the wiki. It explicitly said that the date
would be 2005-08-07.
Besides that, the next weekend is too late. Since I have very little time in
weekdays, if I had given it up on the 7th, I would have to postpone till the
13th or 14th. Do you think this is still "the beginning of August"? For me,
it is the middle of August.
I don't think my action was impolite. Because you or anyone else didn't oppose
to my proposal of making a release "regardless of the status", I assume that
it was an approval. Am I wrong?
I'd like to describe why I stick to the scheduling. In GRUB Legacy, I was not
a release manager at the beginning. Gordon was the official maintainer, and I
simply assisted him. After that, I had to manage releases myself, but I
couldn't realize the importance of making a release regularly and quickly,
since I had no experience. I often missed release points, because I hesitated
to do it when I felt that something was not working or missing. That affected
the development badly, since many people kept using old versions and didn't
try the latest. This is one reason why GRUB Legacy has never been a stable
version.
That gave me a lesson that it is sometimes necessary to ignore negative things
to obtain more benefits. I do not want to make the same mistake again in GRUB
2. If you see successful projects (at the aspect of development), most of
them make releases very often or regularly. If you see failing projects, most
of them do not make releases very well. I don't think I need to list up
examples here.
As long as GRUB 2 is at a developmental phase, I'd like to keep the policy of
making releases regularly, regardless of the status. That's because I know
that releases can be extremely delayed, once I accept to put a delay.
At the current stage, the purpose of releases is not to provide ready-to-use
distributions, but to get more developers interested in GRUB 2, as Marco
pointed out. If one does not try to look at the source code only because it
is not compilable, he/she won't take part in the development anyway, so we
don't have to care.
I hope you would understand my point.
Okuji
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-09 18:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-07 17:39 GRUB 1.90 is released Yoshinori K. Okuji
2005-08-09 3:21 ` Hollis Blanchard
2005-08-09 6:32 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2005-08-09 13:43 ` Hollis Blanchard
2005-08-09 14:21 ` Marco Gerards
2005-08-09 18:47 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2005-08-09 20:56 ` Marco Gerards
2005-08-09 18:42 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji [this message]
2005-08-09 21:04 ` Marco Gerards
2005-08-10 1:19 ` Hollis Blanchard
2005-08-10 16:06 ` Vernon Mauery
2005-08-10 17:21 ` Vincent Pelletier
2005-08-10 17:40 ` Vernon Mauery
2005-08-10 19:59 ` Vladimir Serbinenko
2005-08-10 20:44 ` Vincent Pelletier
2005-08-11 9:17 ` Marco Gerards
2005-08-11 10:57 ` Vincent Pelletier
2005-08-11 11:22 ` Marco Gerards
2005-08-11 13:58 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2005-08-11 14:47 ` Vladimir Serbinenko
2005-08-12 20:11 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2005-08-14 7:47 ` Vladimir Serbinenko
2005-08-14 14:31 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2005-08-14 14:56 ` Vladimir Serbinenko
2005-08-10 20:56 ` Vernon Mauery
2005-08-10 20:56 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2005-08-10 21:50 ` Vernon Mauery
2005-08-10 23:08 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
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