From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org,
ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] dynticks - implement no idle hz for x86
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:14:48 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509031814.49666.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050903090650.B26998@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:06, Russell King wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 06:01:08PM +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 17:58, Russell King wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 04:13:10PM +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > > Noone's ignoring you.
> > > >
> > > > What we need to do is ensure that dynamic ticks is working properly
> > > > on x86 and worth including before anything else. If and when we
> > > > confirm this it makes sense only then to try and merge code from the
> > > > other 2 architectures to as much common code as possible as no doubt
> > > > we'll be modifying other architectures we're less familiar with. At
> > > > that stage we will definitely want to tread even more cautiously at
> > > > that stage.
> > >
> > > dyntick has all the hallmarks of ending up another mess just like the
> > > "generic" (hahaha) irq stuff in kernel/irq - it's being developed in
> > > precisely the same way - by ignore non-x86 stuff.
> > >
> > > I can well see that someone will say "ok, this is ready, merge it"
> > > at which point we then end up with multiple differing userspace
> > > methods of controlling it depending on the architecture, but
> > > multiple differing kernel interfaces as well.
> > >
> > > Indeed, you seem to be at the point where you'd like akpm to merge
> > > it. That sets alarm bells ringing if you haven't considered these
> > > issues.
> > >
> > > I want to avoid that. Just because a couple of people say "we'll
> > > deal with that later" it's no guarantee that it _will_ happen. I
> > > want to ensure that ARM doesn't get fscked over again like it did
> > > with the generic IRQ crap.
> >
> > Ok I'll make it clearer. We don't merge x86 dynticks to mainline till all
> > are consolidated in -mm.
>
> Does this mean you're seriously going to rewrite bits of it after
> you've spent what seems like months sorting out all the problems
> currently being found?
>
> Excuse me for being stupid, but I somehow don't see that happening.
> Those months would be effectively wasted effort, both on the side
> of the people working on the patches and those testing them.
I've personally been on this code for 3 separate days in total and have no
deadline or requirement for this to go in ever so I should stop speaking on
behalf of the others.
Cheers,
Con
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-03 8:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-31 16:58 Updated dynamic tick patches Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 17:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Fix lost tick calculation in timer_pm.c Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 22:36 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-08-31 22:47 ` john stultz
2005-09-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] dynticks - implement no idle hz for x86 Con Kolivas
2005-09-02 15:45 ` [PATCH 2/3] dyntick - Fix lost tick calculation in timer pm.c Con Kolivas
2005-09-02 15:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] dyntick - Recover walltime upon wakeup Con Kolivas
2005-09-02 17:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] dyntick - Fix lost tick calculation in timer pm.c Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-02 20:18 ` Thomas Schlichter
2005-09-02 21:21 ` john stultz
2005-09-02 16:56 ` [PATCH 1/3] dynticks - implement no idle hz for x86 Russell King
2005-09-02 17:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-03 6:13 ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-03 7:58 ` Russell King
2005-09-03 8:01 ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-03 8:06 ` Russell King
2005-09-03 8:14 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2005-09-04 20:10 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-04 20:26 ` Russell King
2005-09-04 20:37 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-04 21:17 ` Russell King
2005-09-05 3:08 ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-05 16:28 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 6:58 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-05 16:30 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-04 20:41 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 5:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 5:48 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 6:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 6:44 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-06 20:51 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 8:13 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-07 15:00 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 15:53 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 17:07 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 17:23 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 18:14 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 18:22 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 16:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-07 16:42 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-07 17:17 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 17:27 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-07 18:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 18:33 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-09 16:27 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-05 7:37 ` Russell King
2005-09-05 7:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 8:00 ` Russell King
2005-09-05 16:33 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 7:00 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 7:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-05 17:02 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 7:37 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-07 15:05 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-08 10:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-08 21:22 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-08 22:08 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-09 22:30 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-20 11:06 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-20 14:58 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-22 13:38 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-09-22 14:52 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-22 18:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-26 15:08 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-23 6:55 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 7:44 ` Russell King
2005-09-05 8:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 8:32 ` Russell King
2005-09-05 9:24 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 17:06 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 17:04 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 17:27 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 18:06 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 13:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 16:57 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 17:25 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 18:11 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-03 4:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Fix lost tick calculation in timer_pm.c Lee Revell
2005-09-03 4:18 ` Peter Williams
2005-09-03 4:34 ` Lee Revell
2005-09-03 4:48 ` Peter Williams
2005-09-03 5:15 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-09-03 5:30 ` Lee Revell
2005-09-03 5:20 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-06 10:32 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-06 10:46 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-06 18:04 ` john stultz
2005-08-31 17:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Cleanup Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 17:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Recover walltime upon wakeup Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-01 5:23 ` Updated dynamic tick patches Con Kolivas
2005-09-01 13:07 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-01 13:19 ` David Weinehall
2005-09-01 13:46 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-01 14:11 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-02 17:34 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-03 10:16 ` Tony Lindgren
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