From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@istop.com>
To: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
linux clustering <linux-cluster@redhat.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GFS, what's remaining
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:49:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509051149.49929.phillips@istop.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050905141432.GF5498@marowsky-bree.de>
On Monday 05 September 2005 10:14, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
> On 2005-09-03T01:57:31, Daniel Phillips <phillips@istop.com> wrote:
> > The only current users of dlms are cluster filesystems. There are zero
> > users of the userspace dlm api.
>
> That is incorrect...
Application users Lars, sorry if I did not make that clear. The issue is
whether we need to export an all-singing-all-dancing dlm api from kernel to
userspace today, or whether we can afford to take the necessary time to get
it right while application writers take their time to have a good think about
whether they even need it.
> ...and you're contradicting yourself here:
How so? Above talks about dlm, below talks about cluster membership.
> > What does have to be resolved is a common API for node management. It is
> > not just cluster filesystems and their lock managers that have to
> > interface to node management. Below the filesystem layer, cluster block
> > devices and cluster volume management need to be coordinated by the same
> > system, and above the filesystem layer, applications also need to be
> > hooked into it. This work is, in a word, incomplete.
Regards,
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-05 15:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-01 10:46 GFS, what's remaining David Teigland
2005-09-01 10:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-01 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-01 10:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-01 14:49 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 14:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-01 15:28 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 15:28 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-01 15:11 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-01 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-02 7:04 ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 17:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-01 17:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-01 20:21 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-01 20:21 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-02 21:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-09-02 23:03 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-09-03 0:16 ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-03 0:16 ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-03 6:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03 6:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03 6:46 ` [Linux-cluster] " Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 6:46 ` Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 22:21 ` [Linux-cluster] " Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03 22:21 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 1:09 ` [Linux-cluster] " Joel Becker
2005-09-04 1:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 1:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 3:06 ` [Linux-cluster] " Joel Becker
2005-09-04 3:06 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 4:22 ` [Linux-cluster] " Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 4:30 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 4:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 4:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 5:00 ` [Linux-cluster] " Joel Becker
2005-09-04 5:00 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 5:52 ` [Linux-cluster] " Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 5:56 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 4:46 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 4:58 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 5:41 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 5:41 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 5:49 ` [Linux-cluster] " Joel Becker
2005-09-04 5:49 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05 4:30 ` [Linux-cluster] " David Teigland
2005-09-05 4:30 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 8:54 ` [Linux-cluster] " Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 9:24 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 9:24 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 9:19 ` [Linux-cluster] " Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 9:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 9:48 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 12:21 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 12:21 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 19:53 ` [Linux-cluster] " Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 23:20 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:20 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:06 ` [Linux-cluster] " Andrew Morton
2005-09-05 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-14 9:01 ` [Linux-cluster] " Patrick Caulfield
2005-09-14 9:46 ` Antonio Vargas
2005-09-05 19:11 ` kurt.hackel
2005-09-04 6:10 ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04 7:23 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 8:17 ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-04 8:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 8:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 6:40 ` [Linux-cluster] " Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 7:28 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 7:28 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 8:01 ` [Linux-cluster] " Joel Becker
2005-09-04 8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 9:11 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 9:11 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 9:18 ` [Linux-cluster] " Andrew Morton
2005-09-04 9:39 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 9:39 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 18:03 ` [Linux-cluster] " Hua Zhong
2005-09-04 19:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 19:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 7:12 ` Hua Zhong
2005-09-04 8:37 ` [Linux-cluster] " Alan Cox
2005-09-04 8:37 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-05 23:32 ` [Linux-cluster] " Joel Becker
2005-09-05 23:32 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-03 5:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03 5:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-05 14:14 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 14:14 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 15:49 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2005-09-05 16:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 0:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 2:03 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 4:02 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 4:07 ` GFS, what's remainingh Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 4:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 4:58 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 5:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 6:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 6:55 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 7:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 7:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 14:31 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-09-06 13:42 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-06 13:42 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03 7:06 ` GFS, what's remaining Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 7:06 ` Wim Coekaerts
2005-09-03 7:27 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 14:16 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-09-05 20:24 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-09-05 20:53 ` Kurt Hackel
2005-09-05 23:37 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-06 5:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-06 12:55 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2005-09-03 5:18 ` David Teigland
2005-09-03 6:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-03 6:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-03 6:42 ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-03 10:35 ` David Teigland
2005-09-03 20:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-03 20:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2005-09-04 20:33 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-04 22:18 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-04 22:18 ` Joel Becker
2005-09-05 5:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 7:09 ` Mark Fasheh
2005-09-05 14:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 8:27 ` real read-only [was Re: GFS, what's remaining] Pavel Machek
2005-09-05 14:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-09-05 10:44 ` [Linux-cluster] Re: GFS, what's remaining Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-09-05 10:44 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-09-05 16:41 ` Greg Freemyer
2005-09-01 11:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-01 11:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-02 9:44 ` David Teigland
2005-09-02 11:46 ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-02 11:46 ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-03 5:28 ` Greg KH
2005-09-05 3:47 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 3:47 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 8:58 ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-05 9:18 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 9:18 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 5:43 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 5:43 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 6:32 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-05 7:55 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 7:55 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 8:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-05 8:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-10 10:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-05 6:29 ` David Teigland
2005-09-05 6:29 ` David Teigland
2005-09-08 5:41 ` David Teigland
2005-09-08 5:41 ` David Teigland
2005-09-01 12:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-09-01 17:27 ` Daniel Phillips
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