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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, akpm@osdl.org,
	george@mvista.com, johnstul@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] ktimers subsystem
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 08:21:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050923152141.GA29941@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0509221816030.3728@scrub.home>

On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 01:09:46AM +0200, Roman Zippel wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Thomas Gleixner wrote:

[ . . . ]

> > > The main difference between them is that the latter is user 
> > > programmable. 
> > 
> > wallclock is reprogrammable too and it introduces a bunch of horrible
> > functions in posix-timers.c. grep for abs_list. I explained why its
> > horrible already.
> 
> I said _user_ programmable, wallclock time is usually NTP controlled.

I believe Thomas is concerned about workloads that need a short-term
stable timebase.  For example, a process-control application might need
to accurately measure a (say) 1500-millisecond time interval.  Both
user-programmability and NTP adjustments to a given timebase could
destroy the needed measurement accuracy.

Such a workload does not need the long-term tie to wallclock time that
NTP provides, but it does need the accurate short-term timekeeping that
NTP cannot provide -- NTP sacrifices short-term accuracy in order to
adjust the clock as needed to gain long-term stability.

Thomas, John, please jump in if I am missing the point here.

						Thanx, Paul

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-23 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-19 16:48 [ANNOUNCE] ktimers subsystem tglx
2005-09-19 16:48 ` [PATCH] " tglx
2005-09-19 21:47 ` [ANNOUNCE] " Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-19 22:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 22:17   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-19 22:24     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 22:44       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-19 22:50         ` john stultz
2005-09-19 22:58           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-19 23:04         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-09-19 23:12           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-20  7:14             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-20  7:10       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-21 19:24       ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-19 22:39     ` Christopher Friesen
2005-09-19 22:54       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-20  4:57         ` Christopher Friesen
2005-09-20  5:11           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-20  0:43   ` George Anzinger
2005-09-21 19:50 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-21 22:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-22 12:59     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-22 23:09     ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-22 23:31       ` Christopher Friesen
2005-09-23  0:25         ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-23  6:49           ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-24  3:15             ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-24  5:16               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-24 10:35                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-24 13:56                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-24 16:51                     ` Daniel Walker
2005-09-24 23:45                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-25 21:00                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-27 16:54                         ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-27 19:03                           ` Tim Bird
2005-09-28 16:36                             ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-25 21:02                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-27 16:48                         ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-27 18:38                           ` Tim Bird
2005-09-27 20:36                             ` George Anzinger
2005-09-23  2:25       ` john stultz
2005-09-23  8:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-09-24  2:43         ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-24  5:03           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-09-24  9:04           ` James Bruce
2005-09-23 15:21       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2005-09-24  3:38         ` Roman Zippel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-25 15:48 Sid Boyce
2005-09-25 18:20 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-09-26  0:02   ` Sid Boyce

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