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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Muli Ben-Yehuda <mulix@mulix.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, discuss@x86-64.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, shai@scalex86.org
Subject: Re: x86_64: 2.6.14-rc4 swiotlb broken
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:02:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200510171802.09708.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051017155613.GF21783@granada.merseine.nu>

On Monday 17 October 2005 17:56, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:40:56PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > First this problem is definitely not critical. AFAIK it only happens on
> > scalex's unreleased machines. Intel NUMA x86 machines are really rare
> > and on AMD it doesn't happen because the swiotlb is not used there.
>
> It's not used by default, but there are cases where it's used and it
> would be a shame to release a major kernel and knowingly break
> them. For example, any setup that used iommu_force or any non-AMD
> x86-64 machine with more than 4GB of memory and only 32-bit capable
> DMA devices.

... but risk breaking other stuff. Unless you can get the ARM and/or IA64 
people to do some retesting with the proposed fixes it's quite risky.  
Sometimes you have to make compromises before releases.

> Another alternative is to temporarily
> provide a different version of swiotlb_init() for x86-64 and IA64 -
> I can whip up a patch if that's acceptable.

I don't want that.

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-17 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-17  9:36 x86_64: 2.6.14-rc4 swiotlb broken Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-17  9:50 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-17  9:53   ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-17 10:54     ` Yasunori Goto
2005-10-17 15:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 15:37       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-17 15:40       ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-17 15:56         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2005-10-17 16:02           ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2005-10-17 18:53             ` [discuss] " Russell King
2005-10-17 16:02         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 16:26           ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-17 16:42             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 17:09               ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-17 17:52         ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-17 18:08           ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2005-10-17 18:27             ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2005-10-17 18:32               ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-17 18:45                 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2005-10-17 19:04                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-17 19:09                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-17 19:15                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-17 19:47                       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-17 23:50                     ` David Lang
2005-10-18  2:29                     ` Yasunori Goto
2005-10-18  3:20                       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-18  4:28                         ` Yasunori Goto
2005-10-18  6:13                           ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-18 10:09                             ` Yasunori Goto
2005-10-18 18:51                               ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-19 17:18                   ` Jon Mason
2005-10-20  7:27                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-17 18:38             ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-17 18:20           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-10-17 19:04             ` Alex Williamson
2005-10-17 19:26               ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-17 19:52                 ` Alex Williamson
2005-10-17 15:30     ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-17 15:43       ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-17 20:44         ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-17 21:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-18  0:16             ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-18  8:23               ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-18 19:07                 ` [discuss] " Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-18 15:48               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-18 15:50                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-18 19:54                   ` [discuss] " Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-18 21:28                     ` Alex Williamson
2005-10-18 21:53                       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-18 22:04                         ` Alex Williamson
2005-10-18 22:37                           ` Alex Williamson
2005-10-18 23:22                             ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-19  1:22                               ` Alex Williamson
2005-10-19  2:02                                 ` Alex Williamson
2005-10-19 12:47                                 ` Yasunori Goto
2005-10-19 14:19                                   ` Alex Williamson
2005-10-19 18:07                                   ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-19 20:45                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-19 22:52                                       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-20  0:51                                         ` Yasunori Goto
2005-10-20  7:45                                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-18 22:47                           ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-10-17 10:02   ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2005-10-17 19:07     ` Tony Luck

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