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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	andrew.patterson@hp.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Moore, Eric Dean" <Eric.Moore@lsil.com>,
	jejb@steeleye.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:04:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051021180455.GA6834@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <435929FD.4070304@adaptec.com>

On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 01:48:45PM -0400, Luben Tuikov wrote:
> > why James has suggested implementing SMP as a block driver.  People get 
> > stuck into thinking "block driver == block device", which is wrong.  The 

                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> > Linux block layer is nothing but a message queueing interface.
> 
> Now, just because James suggested implementing the SMP service as a block
> device you think this is the right thing to do?
> 
> How about this: Why not as a char device?

you can implement a char device using the block layer.  See
drivers/scsi/{ch.c,osst.c,sg.c,st.c} for examples.

That beeing said I tried this approach.  It looks pretty cool when you
think about it, but the block layer is quite a bit too heavyweight for
queueing up a few SMP requests, and we need to carry too much useless
code around for it.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-21 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-20 15:25 [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs Moore, Eric Dean
2005-10-20 15:55 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-20 16:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-20 16:51   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-20 17:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-20 17:22       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-20 20:10         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21  8:16           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-20 20:02       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21  0:01         ` Andrew Patterson
2005-10-21  0:46           ` ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs) Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21  5:09             ` Mike Christie
2005-10-21  5:41             ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-21  6:19               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 18:37                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 17:48             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:04               ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2005-10-21 18:12                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:20                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-22  2:30                     ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-22  2:54                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22  3:53                         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22 17:14                           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 17:49                             ` Francois Romieu
2005-10-22 16:51                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:18               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 18:50                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 18:54                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 19:13                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:23                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 22:20                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-21 19:22                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:39                       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 20:41                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 21:12                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 21:24                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 21:41                               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21 22:14                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 22:43                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22  9:26                                     ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 17:23                                       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 10:42                                     ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 10:58                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-22 15:28                                         ` Sergey Panov
2005-10-22 17:19                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-22 17:38                                             ` Sergey Panov
2005-10-24 15:18                                               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 18:27                                             ` Alan Cox
2005-10-24 13:51                                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-24 15:41                                               ` Alan Cox
2005-10-24 15:14                                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-24 15:59                                                   ` Regala
2005-10-24 16:03                                                     ` Regala
2005-10-24 16:13                                                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-24 16:04                                                   ` Regala
2005-10-22 17:30                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 18:19                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-22 17:49                                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-24 22:09                                           ` ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attachedPHYs) David Lang
2005-10-24 23:09                                             ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 11:12                                       ` David Lang
2005-10-22 17:39                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-22 17:41                                         ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 17:51                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-22 18:21                                             ` Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 18:39                                             ` Sergey Panov
2005-10-22 13:27                                       ` ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs) Stefan Richter
2005-10-22 16:09                                     ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:41                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-21 19:48                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:54                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-10-21 20:05                             ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 19:46                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-21 19:50                         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21  9:06           ` [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-21 17:05             ` Andrew Patterson
2005-10-21 17:18               ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-21 18:57               ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21 17:32           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-10-21  1:50 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-21  2:16   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-10-21  3:25     ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-21 18:04   ` Luben Tuikov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-21 20:31 ioctls, etc. (was Re: [PATCH 1/4] sas: add flag for locally attached PHYs) Salyzyn, Mark
2005-10-21 20:31 ` Salyzyn, Mark

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