From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dave Feustel Subject: Re: Re: Xen 3.0 for OpenBSD Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:04:39 -0500 Message-ID: <200510251304.40053.dfeustel@verizon.net> References: <200510111424.32938.dfeustel@verizon.net> <2b6116b30510111532v23cc0269r4fb667c7d4676952@mail.gmail.com> <200510251544.43125.mark.williamson@cl.cam.ac.uk> Reply-To: dfeustel@mindspring.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-reply-to: <200510251544.43125.mark.williamson@cl.cam.ac.uk> Content-disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com To: Mark Williamson Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, dfeustel@mindspring.com, Nicholas Lee List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On Tuesday 25 October 2005 09:44, Mark Williamson wrote: > > On 10/12/05, Dave Feustel wrote: > > > I figure if I take this path, I'm on my own, but I am starting to feel > > > like maybe I could do it. But then I could be wrong too. Only way to find > > > out is at some point to try. I certainly will learn a lot about the guts > > > of OpenBSD that way. :-) > > > > Good luck. Great thing about Xen, will make it easy to test without > > taking down your computer. Plus it makes it easy for other people to > > try. > > Using OpenBSD should be possible under VT. Probably true for those with new Intel VT-enabled processors. I will be getting an AMD processor which has Pacifica, which is not identical in features to Intel's VT. So I have doubts about running OpenBSD in virtual mode on AMD64-Pacifica unless specific support for Pacifica is present in Xen. > Regarding a port of OBSD to Xen, I > don't think anybody has worked on it yet. The code from the other BSD ports > will be useful (due to compatible licensing). It's not clear how much OBSD > and NetBSD have diverged, though - the code probably won't just "slot in" > anyhow :-( I expect to run an *unmodified* OpenBSD using Xen's hardware support for virtualization via Pacifica. I hope I am not living in airborne castles! > > Personally, I've observed quite a lot of hostility to Xen among OBSD community > people, largely due to what I'd call "religious objections", which is a > shame. You are not alone! And not just about Xen either! I ignore it. I think the OpenBSD developers are focused upon server enhancements. I think they will get much more interested in Xen if they see a use for it in OpenBSD server operations. > None of these people are necessarily "important" though, they're just > the ones I've heard something definitive from. Although this is probably > just a vocal minority, there certainly don't seem to be the positive vibes > that you see in some other OS communities (like the other BSDs) - I guess if > someone stepped up with (at least an offer of) some code, one might get a > more concrete reaction from developers. I will have a very strong incentive to get OpenBSD running on Xen when I finally have both a Pacifica-enabled AMD64 system and a copy of the source tree of Xen with Pacifica support. Dave Feustel > Cheers, > Mark > -- Tired of having to defend against Malware? You know: trojans, viruses, SPYWARE, ADWARE, KEYLOGGERS, rootkits, worms and popups. Then Switch to OpenBSD with a KDE desktop!!!