From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Can Sar <csar@stanford.edu>
Cc: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] Making UML Single Threader
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:35:47 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511081835.47575.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A8812BF-70D2-451C-9E9F-4502ED468120@stanford.edu>
On Tuesday 08 November 2005 01:44, Can Sar wrote:
> > Why?
>
> Trust me, I wouldn't do this if it were not for a reason. I have no
> intention of marketing this as a general purpose alternative to
> Linux. It's to check Linux for errors.
I just don't understand your potential use case. (I've seen some really weird
things done in embedded systems, and done a few myself, but I don't
understand what the advantage is here...)
> >> So I don't care about systemcall interception or anything like that,
> >
> > *blink* *blink*
> >
> > Ok, you want user mode linux, but you don't want it to actually run
> > user
> > processes, nor do want it to be able to intercept system calls.
> >
> > Um... What's left?
>
> The ability to call the kernel implementation of some system calls
> and then halt the kernel.
Ah! So you want the ability to test some kernel code, printf the result, and
exit. Right. (And a kernel module doesn't do this because...?)
Jeff was going to split out the scheduler and filesystem into shared libraries
or some such. He mentions it in his intermittent diary, among other places.
(Check the April 22 entry, for example):
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/diary.html
Also projects mentions it towards the end:
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/projects.html
I haven't really followed that work because I never had a use for it. If I
had to chop out kernel functions to run standalone, I'd guess your best bet
is probably reading through starting from main() (in arch/um/kernel/main.c)
and seeing at what point it's initialized enough stuff that you can do what
you want. (Assuming you don't need to do I/O or handle interrupts, and are
doing single processor, then your big worry is probably memory allocation?
I'm guessing here.)
Rob
P.S. What on earth is CONFIG_CMDLINE_ON_HOST? It doesn't seem to ever be set
anywhere, by anything...
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-06 23:23 [uml-devel] Does UML 2.6.14 work under x86-64? Rob Landley
2005-11-07 16:25 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-07 19:32 ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-07 14:38 ` David Lang
2005-11-07 19:44 ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-08 0:53 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-07 14:47 ` David Lang
2005-11-07 15:30 ` David Lang
2005-11-08 3:39 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08 5:13 ` [uml-devel] Making UML Single Threader Can Sar
2005-11-08 7:09 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08 7:44 ` Can Sar
2005-11-09 0:35 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2005-11-09 0:48 ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-09 1:17 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-09 1:31 ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-09 3:18 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-10 4:18 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-10 4:58 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-10 6:23 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-11-10 4:07 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-10 3:55 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08 15:46 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-09 0:27 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-14 13:59 ` Nix
2005-11-14 19:37 ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-14 20:00 ` Nix
2005-11-14 20:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-11-15 11:39 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-11-16 1:23 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08 16:13 ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-09 0:51 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-08 15:43 ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-08 16:10 ` Blaisorblade
2005-11-08 19:11 ` Can Sar
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