From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] userland swsusp
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:40:07 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051115234007.GO17023@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051115233201.GA10143@elf.ucw.cz>
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 12:32:01AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> If this goes in, you can still keep using old method... I'll not
> remove it anytime soon.
Ok.
> > Even it were not for this, the whole idea seems misconcieved to me
> > anyway.
>
> ...but how do you provide nice, graphical progress bar for swsusp
> without this? People want that, and "esc to abort", compression,
> encryption. Too much to be done in kernel space, IMNSHO.
I'll take "rootkit doesnt work" over "bells and whistles".
I think most users actually care more about "works" than
"looks pretty, and then fails spectacularly".
Dave
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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:40:07 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051115234007.GO17023@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051115233201.GA10143@elf.ucw.cz>
On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 12:32:01AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> If this goes in, you can still keep using old method... I'll not
> remove it anytime soon.
Ok.
> > Even it were not for this, the whole idea seems misconcieved to me
> > anyway.
>
> ...but how do you provide nice, graphical progress bar for swsusp
> without this? People want that, and "esc to abort", compression,
> encryption. Too much to be done in kernel space, IMNSHO.
I'll take "rootkit doesnt work" over "bells and whistles".
I think most users actually care more about "works" than
"looks pretty, and then fails spectacularly".
Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-15 23:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-15 21:29 [RFC] userland swsusp Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 21:29 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 21:32 ` Greg KH
2005-11-15 21:32 ` [linux-pm] " Greg KH
2005-11-15 22:03 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 22:25 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15 23:32 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 23:32 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 23:40 ` Dave Jones [this message]
2005-11-15 23:40 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-16 8:56 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 8:56 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-16 21:41 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-16 4:35 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-11-16 6:14 ` Greg KH
2005-11-16 6:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 16:50 ` Greg KH
2005-11-16 19:57 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 21:35 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 22:47 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 22:47 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-23 10:16 ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-11-23 10:16 ` [linux-pm] " Lorenzo Colitti
2005-11-23 12:02 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-23 12:02 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-19 9:32 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-19 9:32 ` [linux-pm] " Rob Landley
2005-11-19 23:51 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-19 23:51 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-18 19:36 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-18 19:36 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Cox
2005-11-18 21:18 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-18 21:20 ` Greg KH
2005-11-18 21:20 ` [linux-pm] " Greg KH
2005-11-19 23:43 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-20 21:48 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-20 21:48 ` [linux-pm] " Dave Jones
2005-11-20 22:09 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-21 11:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-21 14:19 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-21 14:19 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-18 21:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-18 22:07 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-19 4:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-11-19 8:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-18 23:34 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-16 16:00 Stefan Rompf
2005-11-16 19:07 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-17 7:19 ` Stefan Rompf
2005-11-17 10:01 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-21 6:23 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-21 14:14 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 16:10 Gross, Mark
2005-11-16 16:44 ` Greg KH
2005-11-16 20:20 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 22:10 ` Greg KH
2005-11-16 21:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-17 7:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-16 19:10 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-17 16:54 ` [linux-pm] " Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 16:44 ` Greg KH
2005-11-17 17:03 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-11-17 20:15 ` Jacek Kawa
2005-11-17 21:56 ` [linux-pm] " Greg KH
2005-11-18 17:41 ` Jacek Kawa
2005-11-16 22:05 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 22:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-16 22:50 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-17 17:02 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 19:57 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:12 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 20:20 ` [linux-pm] " Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:37 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-17 20:46 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:59 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-17 20:54 ` [linux-pm] " Lee Revell
2005-11-17 21:06 ` Chris Wright
2005-11-17 21:14 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 21:18 ` Chris Wright
2005-11-17 21:09 ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2005-11-17 21:16 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:47 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 18:50 Starikovskiy, Alexey Y
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