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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/18] shared mount handling: bind and rbind
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:47:15 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511160247.15283.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200511160835.28636.a1426z@gawab.com>

On Tuesday 15 November 2005 23:35, Al Boldi wrote:
> Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > This is why we have "pivot_root()" and "chroot()", which can both be used
> > to do what you want to do. You mount the new root somewhere else, and
> > then you chroot (or pivot-root) to it. And THEN you do 'chdir("/")' to
> > move the cwd into the new root too (and only at that point have you
> > "lost" the old root - although you can actually get it back if you have
> > some file descriptor open to it).
>
> Wouldn't this constitute a security flaw?
>
> Shouldn't chroot jail you?

A few years ago I had a build script that compiled a new Linux From Scratch 
system I could chroot into, and one of the things in the new chroot 
environment was a different boot loader.  And for testing purposes (and with 
a boot CD standing by) I would chroot into this new environment and run the 
lilo in it to add the new test kernel into the boot option list.

One day, I upgraded to a new kernel version and it stopped working, because 
chroot had acquired some unwanted security feature that prevented lilo from 
properly talking to /dev/hda from within a chroot environment.

I remember being rather put out by this.

Chroot is sometimes used for other purposes than "security".

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-16  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-08  2:01 [PATCH 12/18] shared mount handling: bind and rbind Al Viro
2005-11-08 14:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-08 15:48   ` Ram Pai
2005-11-08 15:55     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-09 18:44       ` Ram Pai
2005-11-09 18:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 19:26           ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 19:28           ` Ram Pai
2005-11-16  3:29           ` Rob Landley
2005-11-16  3:53             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-16  5:35               ` Al Boldi
2005-11-16  8:19                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-16  9:10                   ` Rob Landley
2005-11-16 10:14                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-16 13:59                   ` Shaya Potter
2005-11-16 16:35                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-16 20:05                     ` Al Boldi
2005-11-16 20:21                       ` Shaya Potter
2005-11-16  8:47                 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2005-11-16  8:41               ` Rob Landley
2005-11-16 16:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 10:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-09 14:31   ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 15:22     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-11-09 15:56       ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 16:33         ` Miklos Szeredi

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