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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] mark virt_to_bus/bus_to_virt as __deprecated on i386
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 03:44:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051118024433.GN11494@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051117182047.5fe1a5eb.akpm@osdl.org>

On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 06:20:47PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 05:50:15PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > virt_to_bus/bus_to_virt are long deprecated, mark them as __deprecated 
> > > > on i386.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Problem is, nobody's fixing these things.  There's no point in adding spam
> > > to the kernel build unless it actually gets us some action, and I haven't
> > > seen any evidence that it does.
> > > 
> > > Stick it under CONFIG_I_AM_A_DEVELOPER_WHO_HAS_TIME_TO_FIX_STUFF.
> > 
> > I'm used to the fact that every single BROKEN_ON_SMP driver generates 
> > tons of such warnings that I don't see why these warnings should be any 
> > bad...
> 
> I frequently (daily) get patches which spit new warnings.  Sometimes
> (~weekly) those warnings indicate real bugs in the patch.
> 
> I believe that the main reason for this is that the developers simply don't
> notice the new warning amongst all the noise.

There are few areas in the kernel that spit that many warnings that you 
might not see new ones .

The developers not noticing the warnings might often be the same 
developers who send patches that don't compile...

> > If you dislike the warnings, you could move the whole __deprecated und a 
> > config option.
> > 
> > In the case of virt_to_bus/bus_to_virt I had the hope that e.g. the ATM 
> > drivers that seem to have an active maintainer might get fixed.
> 
> That would be good - but perhaps a better approach would be to send pointed
> emails to the maintainer.  Or to merge lameo patches to remove
> virt_to_bus() so he has to fix it for real ;)

In the case of virt_to_bus/bus_to_virt there are stil many places in the 
kernel using it, and several of them are well maintained.

IMHO the warnings are the best solution for getting a vast amount fixed, 
and then it's time to think about the rest.

> > But I'm not religious regarding this issue as long as you accept my 
> > -Werror-implicit-function-declaration patch...
> 
> Problem is, I'm the sucker who takes the brunt of that change.  It'd be
> best to fix up the warnings _before_ adding the make-it-break patch.

-Werror-implicit-function-declaration doesn't add new warnings, it turns 
a specific kind of warnings that can indicate nasty runtime errors into 
compile errors.

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-18  2:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-18  1:40 [2.6 patch] mark virt_to_bus/bus_to_virt as __deprecated on i386 Adrian Bunk
2005-11-18  1:50 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-18  2:06   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-18  2:20     ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-18  2:44       ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2005-11-18  2:55         ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-18  3:17           ` Dave Jones
2005-11-18  3:37             ` [2.6 patch] build kernel/intermodule.c only when required Adrian Bunk
2005-11-18  3:37               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-21  9:30               ` Holger Schurig
2005-11-21 10:07                 ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-18  3:42             ` [2.6 patch] mark virt_to_bus/bus_to_virt as __deprecated on i386 David S. Miller
2005-11-18  4:03               ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-18  4:11                 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-19  0:34                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-11-19  0:39                   ` Dave Jones
2005-11-19  1:19                   ` David S. Miller
2005-11-19 20:44                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-19 20:51                   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-19 21:01                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-11-20 23:27                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-21  4:27                     ` David S. Miller
2005-11-19 13:44   ` Jesper Juhl
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-02 21:49 Undefined '.bus_to_virt', '.virt_to_bus' causes compile error on Powerpc 64-bit Judith Lebzelter
2006-10-02 23:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-03  1:22   ` [2.6 patch] mark virt_to_bus/bus_to_virt as __deprecated on i386 Adrian Bunk
2006-10-03  1:22     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-03  1:48     ` Nicholas Miell
2006-10-03  1:48       ` Nicholas Miell
2006-10-03  1:58       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-03  1:58         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-03  2:55         ` Nicholas Miell
2006-10-03  2:55           ` Nicholas Miell
2006-10-03  4:37       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-03  4:37         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-03 11:29         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-03 11:29           ` Alan Cox
2006-10-03  4:37     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-03  4:37       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-03  4:44       ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-03  4:44         ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-03  4:49         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-03  4:49           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-03  4:55           ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-03  4:55             ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-03  5:07             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-03  5:07               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-03  9:36           ` Stefan Richter
2006-10-03  9:36             ` Stefan Richter
2006-10-03 11:24     ` Alan Cox
2006-10-03 11:24       ` Alan Cox
2006-07-06 22:30 Adrian Bunk
2006-06-26 15:10 Adrian Bunk
2006-06-26 15:38 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-26 15:46   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-26 15:54     ` Dave Jones
2006-06-27 14:27       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-27 14:42         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-27 15:17         ` Alan Cox
2006-06-27 19:09           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-27 19:17             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-26 16:14   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-06-26 16:45     ` Dave Jones
2006-06-26 15:48 ` Alan Cox
2006-04-27 20:33 Adrian Bunk
     [not found] <fa.mZJQjHk9A5D4GHpUn7lttlNhH5U@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.aQp/JAmWqmBjqeleRNK2yrIEx2o@ifi.uio.no>
2006-04-22 21:57   ` Dave Olson
2006-04-18 22:07 Adrian Bunk
2006-04-18 22:19 ` Roland Dreier
     [not found] ` <20060419051355.GI4825@rhun.haifa.ibm.com>
2006-04-19 18:07   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-19 18:21     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-19 19:23       ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]     ` <20060419184957.GK4825@rhun.haifa.ibm.com>
2006-04-19 22:55       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-06 13:27 Adrian Bunk
2006-01-07  9:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-07 10:53   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-13 17:02 Adrian Bunk
2005-11-23 22:34 Adrian Bunk
2005-11-07 20:03 [2.6 patch] add -Werror-implicit-function-declaration to CFLAGS Adrian Bunk
2005-11-10 12:28 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-11  2:12   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-11  2:24     ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-11 20:18       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-11 20:20         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-12  4:34           ` [2.6 patch] mark virt_to_bus/bus_to_virt as __deprecated on i386 Adrian Bunk

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